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    Pitching depth, Where i think they should be next season

    I know there are to many at certain levels.
    Reds will have to figure out what to do with them.
    I like our depth though

    Reds
    Hunter Greene
    Nick Lodolo
    Andrew Abbott
    Brandon Williamson, Injured
    Graham Ashcraft, Injured
    Carson Spires

    Louisville
    Julian Aguiar
    Chase Petty
    Rhett Lowder
    Connor Phillips, Who knows
    Lyon Richardson, Looks like he may being moved to a reliever

    Chattanooga
    Kevin Abel
    Jose Acuna
    Ryan Cardona
    Jose Franco
    Javi Rivera, Injured
    Hunter Parks, Injured

    Dayton
    Chase Burns
    Luke Holman
    Adam Serwinowski
    Ty Floyd, Injured
    Nestor Lorant
    Jared Lyons, Injured
    Ben Bruti
    Brian Edgington
    Johnathan Harmon, Injured
    Bryce Hubbart
    Mason Pelio

    Daytona
    Cole Schoenwetter
    Hunter Hollan, Injured
    Kenya Huggins, Injured
    Jose Montero
    Juan Martinez, Injured
    Logan Van Treeck, Injured
    Reynardo Cruz, Injured
    Nick Payero
    David Lorduy
    Luis Morellis
    Ricardo Quintana
    Adrian Herrera

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    Re: Pitching depth, Where i think they should be next season

    Good topic.

    I'm guessing Richardson is on the I-71 shuttle between Louisville and Cincinnati most of the season, along with Zach Maxwell, Fernando Cruz, Graham Ashcraft (assuming health), Brandon Williamson (assuming health), Carson Spiers, and Yosver Zulueta. Phillips too, perhaps. Three positions (one starter, two reliever) could share nine arms, thereby keeping them fresh and ready to go.

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    Re: Pitching depth, Where i think they should be next season

    As things are, I like the following:

    Hunter Greene
    Nick Lodolo
    Andrew Abbott
    Rhett Lowder
    Brandon Williamson/Carson Spires

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    Re: Pitching depth, Where i think they should be next season

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverfrontRed View Post
    As things are, I like the following:

    Hunter Greene
    Nick Lodolo
    Andrew Abbott
    Rhett Lowder
    Brandon Williamson/Carson Spires
    I’ve been thinking about Lowder in rotation for opening day. If he finishes this season strong in the minors — why not?
    Last edited by Kc61; 08-13-2024 at 02:09 AM.

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    Re: Pitching depth, Where i think they should be next season

    I should have listed Martinez for the Reds.
    He will probably opt out but could sign a new deal

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    Re: Pitching depth, Where i think they should be next season

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    I’ve been thinking about Lowder for opening day. If he finishes this season strong in the minors — why not?
    That would be very nice. And Burns at the end of the year!

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    Re: Pitching depth, Where i think they should be next season

    Glad to see Jose Acuna back in action and pitching well for Chattanooga the last few weeks. Not sure what held him back this year? Looks like he's being treated with kid gloves with his innings. I don't know much about him other than he always seems to put up solid numbers.
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    Re: Pitching depth, Where i think they should be next season

    Quote Originally Posted by Reds Freak View Post
    Glad to see Jose Acuna back in action and pitching well for Chattanooga the last few weeks. Not sure what held him back this year? Looks like he's being treated with kid gloves with his innings. I don't know much about him other than he always seems to put up solid numbers.
    He was injured coming into the season, then got injured in the season.

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    Re: Pitching depth, Where i think they should be next season

    Quote Originally Posted by Reds Freak View Post
    Glad to see Jose Acuna back in action and pitching well for Chattanooga the last few weeks. Not sure what held him back this year? Looks like he's being treated with kid gloves with his innings. I don't know much about him other than he always seems to put up solid numbers.
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    Re: Pitching depth, Where i think they should be next season

    Here’s a post for Nick Martinez.

    There may not be a a lot of drama left in the Reds season. Four games and four teams separate the Reds from the final NL Wild card spot, and with the D’Backs and Padres poised to never lose again, the Reds will have to be standard deviations better than the Braves, Mets, Cards, and Giants to make the playoffs. Unlikely. For Nick Martinez, however, the next seven weeks or so will be like a tightly-contested pennant race.

    Martinez signed with the Reds likely thinking he’d have a shot at the rotation. It was his bad luck that Hunter Greene, Nick Lodolo, and Andrew Abbott all turned in to foundational pieces all at once. He’s been stellar in his role though, and now with Graham Ashcraft and Brandon Williamson sidelined - And Frankie Montas plying his wares with the Brewers, Martinez seems like he’s locked-in to a rotation spot for the remainder of 2024.

    He has an ERA creeping towards 3.00. He never walks anyone. He has a shot at eclipsing 130 innings. If he wants to be the next Charlie Morton - it’s right there for him. Teams had success in converting stretch guys like Seth Lugo and Reynaldo Lopez in the full-go starters in 2024.

    If Martinez can show he’s capable of handling a SP workload through the end of the year, my guess is he gets ~3 years and $60MM from some pitching-thirsty fringe contender. If he fails, the type of opt-out heavy deal the Reds signed him to in 2024 seems more likely.

    He’s pacing because he wants to win… but he’s also pacing because this is his last chance to make ****-you money from playing professional ball.

    He seems like a great guy. I’m rooting hard for him. I hope he pitches so well that he prices himself out of Brewers/Cards/Cubs territory and takes $60MM from the Giants and/or BoSox next year. Go Nick Go!
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    Re: Pitching depth, Where i think they should be next season

    Quote Originally Posted by krazzy View Post
    I know there are to many at certain levels.
    Reds will have to figure out what to do with them.
    I like our depth though

    Reds
    Hunter Greene
    Nick Lodolo
    Andrew Abbott
    Brandon Williamson, Injured
    Graham Ashcraft, Injured
    Carson Spires

    Louisville
    Julian Aguiar
    Chase Petty
    Rhett Lowder
    Connor Phillips, Who knows
    Lyon Richardson, Looks like he may being moved to a reliever

    Chattanooga
    Kevin Abel
    Jose Acuna
    Ryan Cardona
    Jose Franco
    Javi Rivera, Injured
    Hunter Parks, Injured

    Dayton
    Chase Burns
    Luke Holman
    Adam Serwinowski
    Ty Floyd, Injured
    Nestor Lorant
    Jared Lyons, Injured
    Ben Bruti
    Brian Edgington
    Johnathan Harmon, Injured
    Bryce Hubbart
    Mason Pelio

    Daytona
    Cole Schoenwetter
    Hunter Hollan, Injured
    Kenya Huggins, Injured
    Jose Montero
    Juan Martinez, Injured
    Logan Van Treeck, Injured
    Reynardo Cruz, Injured
    Nick Payero
    David Lorduy
    Luis Morellis
    Ricardo Quintana
    Adrian Herrera
    Might add Benschoter to the Nooga list

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    Re: Pitching depth, Where i think they should be next season

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    I’ve been thinking about Lowder in rotation for opening day. If he finishes this season strong in the minors — why not?
    Because there is no reason to rush him. Like a month ago Redszone was calling this guy a bust and now everyone wants him starting the year in MLB lol.
    What would you say.....ya do here?

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    Re: Pitching depth, Where i think they should be next season

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Because there is no reason to rush him. Like a month ago Redszone was calling this guy a bust and now everyone wants him starting the year in MLB lol.
    One reason might be that the major league team has a hole in its rotation once Martinez opts out. If Lowder is the best guy to fill the hole, they should use him. It also means the Reds were cheap and short-sighted and didn't go out and get a solid starting pitcher, but if they don't, they should use the best internal option and right now I'd say that's probably Lowder.
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    Re: Pitching depth, Where i think they should be next season

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Because there is no reason to rush him. Like a month ago Redszone was calling this guy a bust and now everyone wants him starting the year in MLB lol.
    In today’s game you aren’t rushing a starting pitcher if he appears ready. You don’t leave him in the minors just to gain experience. Starting pitching is too expensive. Lowder worked 7 successful innings last time, he seems on track.

    There’s another 5+ weeks to go in the minor league season. If Lowder continues to pitch well and deep into games, working on the areas coaches suggest, I think he gets strong consideration for next season’s rotation.

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    Re: Pitching depth, Where i think they should be next season

    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    One reason might be that the major league team has a hole in its rotation once Martinez opts out. If Lowder is the best guy to fill the hole, they should use him. It also means the Reds were cheap and short-sighted and didn't go out and get a solid starting pitcher, but if they don't, they should use the best internal option and right now I'd say that's probably Lowder.
    Look, I think we'd all love to see them sign a #2 starter to pair with Greene. That'd be fantastic.

    I've followed the Reds closely enough - and I know you have too - to not expect that to happen, even if it should.

    They've signaled that they want to keep the rotation young and affordable, and the Reds want to insulate themselves from higher-risk, long-term FA deals. That mean's keeping the pipeline flowing.

    I do think we'll see $20MM or so invested into the pitching, but my guess it will be used on a swingman (like Martinez) and/or a quality bullpen arm.


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