9-17-24 Reds vs Braves 6:40 PM

[Ron Madden]

Here's another reason I'm a Spencer Steer fan:
By Lance McAlister 700wlw

Here's another reason I'm a Spencer Steer fan:
After hitting the game winning home run last night, he talked in the postgame about his disappointment in his season:

"I feel like I've not been the guy that I've needed to be for this team."

I love that.

Yes, his batting average is down from .271 last year to .232. But Steer still has 20 HR, 91 RBI, 33 2B, 25 SB. He's played LF, 1B, 2B, RF and even appeared at SS.

But he's gone through slumps this season. He hit just .177 in May. Last night snapped a streak of 24 games w/o a homer. He said he prides himself on consistency and showing up every day and taking good at-bats.

He said that he showed the emotion he did rounding the bases last night because he helped the team.

I love that.

He's not a big rah rah guy. But I think there is great value in those words. It's a quiet leadership type of thing. A leading by example thing. Kind of reminds me of Scott Rolen.

He also went to bat for Noelvi Marte in the postgame. He noted it's a big learning curve at his age at this level. He pointed out when he was Marte's age, he was in college. He said Marte's learning and adjusting, and is an incredible talent.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Here's another reason I'm a Spencer Steer fan:
By Lance McAlister 700wlw

I just absolutely love that guy. My favorite Red, and it's not even close. If management loses it mind and trades him in the offseason, I might have to have therapy.

[757690]

He didn’t get to ramp up in a normal process, and had one minor league start before going full speed in the majors, and you don’t think there’s a relation. Ok.

There is no difference between pitching in a minor league game and a MLB game where your team is out of contention. The pitcher pitches full speed in both instances. The reason to pitch in minor league games first is that they don’t matter. The games Williamson pitched in didn’t matter.

The Reds had plenty of other options instead of Williamson if they thought he wasn’t ready. They clearly thought he was ready and he was. He pitch fine for 3 starts. Then he tore his UCL on his fourth start. Odds are high that that would have happened no matter where he pitched.

[LeatherPants]

There is no difference between pitching in a minor league game and a MLB game where your team is out of contention. The pitcher pitches full speed in both instances. The reason to pitch in minor league games first is that they don’t matter. The games Williamson pitched in didn’t matter.

The Reds had plenty of other options instead of Williamson if they thought he wasn’t ready. They clearly thought he was ready and he was. He pitch fine for 3 starts. Then he tore his UCL on his fourth start. Odds are high that that would have happened no matter where he pitched.

Using this logic, we should be able to get rid of Spring Training. There's a reason why guys ramp up with four or five starts before starting the season. Williamson was off for three months, had one rehab start and jumped right back into the rotation. Maybe it matters or maybe it doesn't, but I'd have been more careful with him, and I said so at the time.


Also, next time you speak to a major leaguer, ask them if there's a difference between a rehab assignment and a major league game, even if the major league team is out of it. They'll 100% tell you there is.

[757690]

Using this logic, we should be able to get rid of Spring Training. There's a reason why guys ramp up with four or five starts before starting the season. Williamson was off for three months, had one rehab start and jumped right back into the rotation. Maybe it matters or maybe it doesn't, but I'd have been more careful with him, and I said so at the time.


Also, next time you speak to a major leaguer, ask them if there's a difference between a rehab assignment and a major league game, even if the major league team is out of it. They'll 100% tell you there is.

Williamson’s MLB starts were treated just like spring training games. 3 IP, then 4 IP, then 5 IP. That’s the very definition of ramping up. It doesn’t matter if they were in the majors or in AAA. About the only difference is that in AAA, Williamson was likely pitching in front of more fans than at a Reds home game.

[LeatherPants]

Williamson’s MLB starts were treated just like spring training games. 3 IP, then 4 IP, then 5 IP. That’s the very definition of ramping up. It doesn’t matter if they were in the majors or in AAA. About the only difference is that in AAA, Williamson was likely pitching in front of more fans than at a Reds home game.

We just aren't going to agree on this, so I'm out.

[Kingspoint]

When we score 5 or more, our club very successful. And that hasn't happened a whole lot this season. Too many zero and one run performances and not enough five or more tally games.

When any team scores 5 or more they are very successful.

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He didn’t get to ramp up in a normal process, and had one minor league start before going full speed in the majors, and you don’t think there’s a relation. Ok.

And, if you were watching, Bell didn't keep him at a low-pitch count very long. Let's just say that I was very concerned when I saw Bell doing this.

[Kingspoint]

There is no difference between pitching in a minor league game and a MLB game where your team is out of contention. The pitcher pitches full speed in both instances. The reason to pitch in minor league games first is that they don’t matter. The games Williamson pitched in didn’t matter.

The Reds had plenty of other options instead of Williamson if they thought he wasn’t ready. They clearly thought he was ready and he was. He pitch fine for 3 starts. Then he tore his UCL on his fourth start. Odds are high that that would have happened no matter where he pitched.

Bell, in my opinion when it was happening, had him throwing too many pitches to try to save the pen or whatever. That wouldn't have happened in the minor leagues. They probably would have stayed on a 60-pitch count for the rest of the season, at most 75, and Bell had him going over 90 quickly. I thought it was abusive.

[Kingspoint]

Great. Now he has a UCL tear. That's likely his career based on how much time he's already lost in his development.

Great move by the REDS letting Bell overwork him early in his rehab.