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So, the question begs,...is he more Wily Mo Pena or Johnny Bench?
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
Fil3232 (10-02-2024)
Fil3232 (10-02-2024)
How about Ken Camineti, without the substance abuse issues?
I think we would all be satisfied with that.
Posting in the clutch since twenty ought two.
Top end comp for him to me is Carlos Delgado.
I'm by no means a scout, but to me the ball jumped off Collier's bat in a different way than his peers in A+. I am excited about him.
wilbo71 (10-02-2024)
Bench or WMP though?
I'm guessing the real question is, is Cam all hype like WMP turned out to be, or is there substance to his game like Bench (hall of famer)
The history of prospects, even highly touted prospects like Cam tells us he will likely be much closer to WMP production than JB production just based upon the simple belief that Bench is arguably the best player his position has ever seen in the history of the game (If not, certainly top 5). Most prospects don't come close to HOF production, let alone best at their position of all time production. So while it is fun to dream on a Bench like stat line both offensively or defensively no matter where he ends up playing, to odds of that happening is only slightly higher than 0%.
What does have me excited is that both last season and this season, Cam was a full 3+ years younger than the league average. How many pitchers has he faced in professional baseball that were born in the same year as Cam? How many are younger? Can't imagine either answer is big and I suspect the answer to the 2nd question could be counted on one's own digits, perhaps even just one hand.
Posting in the clutch since twenty ought two.
Kingspoint (10-02-2024)
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
Yeah. That's huge. I think he's gonna hit. The question is if he pays attention to his nutritionist or not. Even playing in a league with guys mostly 3 years older than he is, Cam looks, well, not chunky but thick. I hope I'm wrong, but I look at that body and project just normal young 20 y/old male growth and he's destined for 1st base which means he really has to hit.
"Even a bad day at the ballpark beats the snot out of most other good days. I'll take my scorecard and pencil and beer and hot dog and rage at the dips and cheer at the highs, but I'm not ever going to stop loving this game and this team and nobody will ever take that away from me." Roy Tucker October 2010
mth123 (10-03-2024)
I would really love to see Collier stick at 3B. Apparently his arm strength is excellent, and I recall it being a standout skill for him during the draft. I'm curious what sort of speed and mobility he has on the diamond. Could he play corner outfield in a few years? It'd be a shame to waste a good arm at 1B, but it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world to have him as a plus defender at 1B or average corner OF, if there happens to be a better option at 3B.
I thought you guys were making too much out of it, until I saw him in person. Those legs were thiiiiiicccckk.
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