2024-2025 Reds Off-season General Discussion

[JFLegal]

Why?

Wouldn't be expensive. Good bounceback candidate IMO. Reds need an everyday 1B.

[Mitri]

They need better players. We really need to get away from limiting ourselves to just ticking off a list of needs like we're grocery shopping.

They need long-term answers. I wouldn't blow half their remaining budget on a 37-year old coming off a league-average season.

They also have Candy, CES and Steer available for 1B, and they're likely to add another IF who can play there for much less than what Goldy will cost.

Reds have 3-4 holes in their roster and about $20MM to spend, Goldshmidt makes zero sense to me.

[Kingspoint]

Like I said, Candy is a first baseman/DH. You can put him at third, it probably doesn’t change that label. Maybe if he’s in top shape and fully healthy he can be adequate at third. Same with Steer, put him wherever you want. But he plays first base credibly.

Inevitably, if your team has lots of first basemen/DHs, some are going to play other positions. You only have 13 position players. But it doesn’t change their defensive prowess, nor does it help the pitchers trying to get outs.

Candelario is actually a much worse 1B Defensively than he is 3B. He's terrible at both, but completely unwatchable at 1B. I hope he doesn't see any Starts at 1B in 2025.

[WrongVerb]

They need long-term answers. I wouldn't blow half their remaining budget on a 37-year old coming off a league-average season.

They also have Candy, CES and Steer available for 1B, and they're likely to add another IF who can play there for much less than what Goldy will cost.

Reds have 3-4 holes in their roster and about $20MM to spend, Goldshmidt makes zero sense to me.

I'm also against signing Goldschmidt, or trading for Arenado, or anyone else past their prime. My targets right now are Kyle Tucker, Nathaniel Lowe, Tristan Casas, Wilyer Abreu, Josh Naylor.

[CaiGuy]

Like I said, Candy is a first baseman/DH. You can put him at third, it probably doesn’t change that label. Maybe if he’s in top shape and fully healthy he can be adequate at third. Same with Steer, put him wherever you want. But he plays first base credibly.

Inevitably, if your team has lots of first basemen/DHs, some are going to play other positions. You only have 13 position players. But it doesn’t change their defensive prowess, nor does it help the pitchers trying to get outs.

I've resigned myself to the fact that Candalario is probably the Reds' plan as primary 3B. They gave him one of their largest-ever FA contracts less than 12 months ago to be their 3B, so I can't imagine they have any other plan there.

I think Steer is locked in at LF as well, with CES at 1B. No primary DH.

Just assumptions based on the way they have always operated.

The way I think they see it:

Stephenson - C
CES - 1B
McLain - 2B
EDLC - SS
Candelario - 3B
Steer - LF
Friedl - CF
Fraley/Fairchild Platoon - RF (If they are acquiring a new starter, ie Ward, this is the obvious spot)

If they swing a trade for Roberts Jr., maybe they move Freidl to LF and Steer to 1B. Or they just move him to RF and call it a day.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/...robert-jr.html

[Ren Deagle]

Don't you wish the Reds would just throw the budget out the window and sell the farm? How about this: trade for Kyle Tucker, Taylor Ward, and Alex Bohm. Release Candelario. Sure we'd have the 30th ranked farm system, and would lack pitching depth, but we'd win a few more games.

[WrongVerb]

Don't you wish the Reds would just throw the budget out the window and sell the farm? How about this: trade for Kyle Tucker, Taylor Ward, and Alex Bohm. Release Candelario. Sure we'd have the 30th ranked farm system, and would lack pitching depth, but we'd win a few more games.

Last year, Tucker was on pace for a 9 win season. Reds right fielders had -1.6 wins.
Last year, Ward had 2.3 wins. Reds left fielders had -1.9 wins.
Last year, Bohm had 3.0 wins. Reds 3rd basemen had -3.9 wins.

Add all that up, that's over 21 additional wins, winning the division and propelling the Reds far into the playoffs.

But, hey, at least we fans get to say how much we love watching Arroyo develop.

Get. Better. Players.

[Kc61]

Last year, Tucker was on pace for a 9 win season. Reds right fielders had -1.6 wins.
Last year, Ward had 2.3 wins. Reds left fielders had -1.9 wins.
Last year, Bohm had 3.0 wins. Reds 3rd basemen had -3.9 wins.

Add all that up, that's over 21 additional wins, winning the division and propelling the Reds far into the playoffs.

But, hey, at least we fans get to say how much we love watching Arroyo develop.

Get. Better. Players.

Agree, but I’d refine it a bit more to “get better veteran position players.” Reds group of young players is quite good even with the disruptions of injuries, etc. They have some good veteran pitching now, especially in the rotation.

But the veteran position group is weak. Stephenson (the best), Fraley, Candy, Espinal. Maybe you include Friedl though he has about two seasons’ worth of playing time.

It’s inconceivable that they won’t add a couple of veteran position players. Plenty of time left to do that. Hopefully they’ll be good ones.

[WrongVerb]

Agree, but I’d refine it a bit more to “get better veteran position players.” Reds group of young players is quite good even with the disruptions of injuries, etc. They have some good veteran pitching now, especially in the rotation.

But the veteran position group is weak. Stephenson (the best), Fraley, Candy, Espinal. Maybe you include Friedl though he has about two seasons’ worth of playing time.

It’s inconceivable that they won’t add a couple of veteran position players. Plenty of time left to do that. Hopefully they’ll be good ones.

Tucker, Bohm, and Ward ARE veteran players, as are Naylor and Robert. I hope you don't mean declining players like Goldy, Arenado, and Castellanos.

[Boss-Hog]

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