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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitri View Post
    Why not give Ivan Johnson a shot? It’ll save $3MM which could be put to better use. Johnson has a little more upside than Espy offensively, though he’s likely not as solid defensively.
    Why do we need Espinal-- or a utility infielder-- at all?


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    Re: 2024-2025 Reds Off-season News

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    IMO Espinal is what Reds need in a backup utility infielder. Not a starter. But a good fit as a backup.

    He plays shortstop. Lot of backup infielders only play second-third. Espy plays all the positions.

    He’s a seasoned pro and very good defender. Reds lack seasoned pros and good defenders.

    His hitting isn’t good enough to start. But he can hit lefties ok and goes on a hot streak once in awhile.

    Good fit for Reds bench.
    Espinal was worth -3 OAA overall last season. That's not a one-year aberration either. In 2023, he was also worth -3 OAA.

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    Re: 2024-2025 Reds Off-season News

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee View Post
    Why do we need Espinal-- or a utility infielder-- at all?
    Depends on where Marte lands, and if someone gets traded.

    But Johnson is a more interesting option than Espinal in my view. More power and speed, less contact but cheaper.

    I just don’t see the need to tender Espinal a contract unless they trade away one of Marte, India, Steer.

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    Agree. I can't see keeping more than two of India, Steer, Espinal. I would look at Johnson for his LH bat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitri View Post
    Depends on where Marte lands, and if someone gets traded.

    But Johnson is a more interesting option than Espinal in my view. More power and speed, less contact but cheaper.

    I just don’t see the need to tender Espinal a contract unless they trade away one of Marte, India, Steer.
    The Reds have a lot of crappy players. I think there is room on the roster for both Espinal and Johnson.

    2 Catchers (Stephenson and somebody)
    5 IF Candy, McLain, EDLC, Espinal, India
    5 OF, - Steer, New Guy, Friedl, Fairchild, Fraley
    1 Utility spot - Johnson

    If Marte and/or CES show that they aren't total wastes of resources, they can option Johnson.

    If I was going to move somebody to make room, Fairchild is the guy I'd move before Espinal.
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    Re: 2024-2025 Reds Off-season News

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee View Post
    Espinal was worth -3 OAA overall last season. That's not a one-year aberration either. In 2023, he was also worth -3 OAA.
    Not sure what this means since players are graded defensively by position. Lifetime at second Espinal is +2 OAA. At third, +4. At short +2. He also has played outfield.

    He’s slipped from ths lifetime levels with age, but he’s still solid when you consider that he’s playing three different infield positions. Good backup utility infielder, still.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HokieRed View Post
    Agree. I can't see keeping more than two of India, Steer, Espinal. I would look at Johnson for his LH bat.
    My list of infielders (non-catchers):
    1B CES
    1B/3B Jeimer Candelario
    2B Matt McLain
    SS EDLC
    3B Jonathan India
    UT Spencer Steer

    That's four starters and two backups.

    After that, I'm not sure any infield options deserves more than a handful of PAs.

    If they want to sign a guy to sit the bench most of the season and only play the last inning or two of games, pinch run, and be a clubhouse presence, I guess that'd be fine. But IMO, that's wasting a roster spot.

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    Re: 2024-2025 Reds Off-season News

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Not sure what this means since players are graded defensively by position. Lifetime at second Espinal is +2 OAA. At third, +4. At short +2.
    Based on this logic, Ozzie Smith would be an exceptional 3B now because his lifetime defensive numbers are exceptional.

    Espinal's excellent defensive seasons from five, four, and three years ago do all the work in that lifetime number.

    His last two seasons, Espinal's been poor overall.

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    Re: 2024-2025 Reds Off-season News

    https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/...n-surgery.html

    No new news here, but it is official. Julian Aguiar underwent Tommy John surgery.

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    Re: 2024-2025 Reds Off-season News

    They desperately need to bring some stability to this lineup, and especially this outfield. And that means going after a power bat whose going to give you 150+ games. I'll give Friedl a pass for last years injury-riddled season because he was very good the year before (maybe team MVP).

    Wouldn't mind pending FA Alonso at 1B (and those 34 Hrs).
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    Re: 2024-2025 Reds Off-season News

    MLB Analyst Pegs Reds as One of the Most Promising Teams That Missed Postseason
    The Reds were ranked fifth on his list of non-playoff teams that could make a run next year.

    "The Reds have a strong young rotation led by Hunter Greene, Nick Lodolo, Andrew Abbott and Rhett Lowder. They have young position players with incredible upside, including some who should return from injury-plagued or suspension-marred seasons." (Matt McLain, Christian Encarnacion-Strand, Noelvi Marte)

    The Reds will be led by All-Star shortstop Elly De La Cruz, who hit 25 home runs and stole 67 bases, and Spencer Steer, who hit 20 home runs with a team-high 92 RBIs. They need to add another outfield slugger, but it’s clear they have the talent to be next year’s version of the Royals or Tigers."
    https://www.si.com/mlb/reds/news/mlb...n-01j9v8mtdz7z

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    Re: 2024-2025 Reds Off-season News

    Saw a blurb where the Phillis may consider Austin Hays as a non-tender candidate this offseason. He had a down year and suffered from injury issues this season, but he has been considered a quality prospect and I believe the Reds considered trying to acquire him from the O's at one point.

    I don't see him as being the main OF target this offseason, but I've said the past month I would like to see the Reds add at least two new OF pieces over the Winter. Do you think it would be worth rolling the dice on him as a secondary OF target and a bounceback candidate?

    Also saw another piece advocating a Reds reunion with Geno (was with a Sonny Gray/Jeimer Candelario- centered swap.

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    Re: 2024-2025 Reds Off-season News

    Quote Originally Posted by corkedbat View Post
    Saw a blurb where the Phillis may consider Austin Hays as a non-tender candidate this offseason. He had a down year and suffered from injury issues this season, but he has been considered a quality prospect and I believe the Reds considered trying to acquire him from the O's at one point.

    I don't see him as being the main OF target this offseason, but I've said the past month I would like to see the Reds add at least two new OF pieces over the Winter. Do you think it would be worth rolling the dice on him as a secondary OF target and a bounceback candidate?

    Also saw another piece advocating a Reds reunion with Geno (was with a Sonny Gray/Jeimer Candelario- centered swap.
    They could do worse than a Fraley/Hays platoon in RF. It would allow them to pursue a CF type while moving Friedl to LF or a pure bat for LF if they can't find a CF.
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    Re: 2024-2025 Reds Off-season News

    Reds need to get an every day, middle of the lineup, very good hitter.

    We seem to have given up on that around RedsZone. It’s not about short-side platoon guys or defensive CFers. First get me a meaningful new everyday bat.

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    Re: 2024-2025 Reds Off-season News

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    Reds need to get an every day, middle of the lineup, very good hitter.

    We seem to have given up on that around RedsZone. It’s not about short-side platoon guys or defensive CFers. First get me a meaningful new everyday bat.
    The premise is that these would be secondary targets. Hays would be an upgrade to Steer or Fairchild.
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