Reds Goals For 2024 Winter Meetings

[Boston Red]

I'm beginning to think that I'm supposed to be satisfied with this...

"Even if no moves are made during the four-day gathering, there are often transactions completed later in the offseason that develop out of fruitful talks that began at the Meetings."

Why wouldn't you be satisfied? Who cares if moves are made December 1 or February 1?

[mth123]

Martinez merely exercised an available option that was probably worth more than any other team would give him. He traded a team leader, who had a good year last year for a pitcher that really isnt any better on the gamble that Mclain will return from missing an entire season and show the form he has displayed in 365 MLB at bats. I must have missed that deal where Krall got a hammer who will hit 40+ homeruns and drive in 100+ runs while playing 150 games in the outfield.

I think the rotation was a significant question until Krall made the QO to Martinez and dealt for Singer. Now it's one of the best in the NL with enough depth to trade a starter for a bat.

[LeatherPants]

Why wouldn't you be satisfied? Who cares if moves are made December 1 or February 1?

Because for the most part the better players are being taken off the board now and by February 1 guys that are going to be difference makers will be gone.

[RedTeamGo!]

Here's a link to the "We tried Tracker".

(Looks like it needs to be updated)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1794412195

To be fair, that’s not from the reds it’s from a reporter. That shows they actually made a solid offer. They simply cannot top what the White Sox got from Boston.

Which, IMHO, says more about the reds amateur scouting dept than Krall not being able to pull off a trade. The fact the reds have made a bunch of trades for prospects and have been drafting high and can’t match what the Red Sox put together for crochet is rather alarming.

[Kingspoint]

Why wouldn't you be satisfied? Who cares if moves are made December 1 or February 1?

Because on Jan. 31st, many of the options that were available on November 30th are no longer available. It's like shopping for toilet paper during COVID.

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I think the rotation was a significant question until Krall made the QO to Martinez and dealt for Singer. Now it's one of the best in the NL with enough depth to trade a starter for a bat.

And, Martinez and Singer become two very tradeable options down the road.

[LeatherPants]

To be fair, that’s not from the reds it’s from a reporter. That shows they actually made a solid offer. They simply cannot top what the White Sox got from Boston.

Who do you think the reporter got the news from?

Reds are great at getting their names in the paper that they almost signed or traded for someone.

[Kingspoint]

Here's a link to the "We tried Tracker".

(Looks like it needs to be updated)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1794412195

That's hilarious!

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Who do you think the reporter got the news from?

Reds are great at getting their names in the paper that they almost signed or traded for someone.

Like when Al Capone would give away turkeys at the Holidays.

[Kingspoint]

Don't like Steer at 3B. Candy is a better defender.

I haven't seen enough of Steer at 3B to make the judgement.

I just hope that Espinal is Starting at 3B against Left-Handers and that Candelario is sitting on the bench against Left-Handers. The Veteran preferential treatment that Bell gave to Candelario last season cost us a lot of games.

[RedTeamGo!]

Who do you think the reporter got the news from?

Reds are great at getting their names in the paper that they almost signed or traded for someone.

Guessing the reporter got that from the white Sox

It’s not exactly a feather in the cap of the reds “even though we have been hoarding prospects for like 5 years we couldn’t beat the Red Sox offer” isn’t exactly a flex.

[Kingspoint]

But Krall and his team are "trying" so hard to improve. Don't they get credit for giving it the ol' college?

They get credit for picking right with Acuna, grabbing the 2B in the Rule-5 draft, adding two excellent Veteran Starting Pitchers (most seasons this would be enough for an entire Winter's worth of moves) that makes every younger Starter a whole lot better.

There's 32 teams looking for hitting and there's enough hitting for about 8 teams. Adding hitting is a monumental task.

I also love the Espinal signing. It's more likely that the REDS (like most clubs) are going to have to use a lot of platoons to improve their hitting.

[mth123]

I haven't seen enough of Steer at 3B to make the judgement.

I just hope that Espinal is Starting at 3B against Left-Handers and that Candelario is sitting on the bench against Left-Handers. The Veteran preferential treatment that Bell gave to Candelario last season cost us a lot of games.

IMO, Steer is a 1B/DH. Some attribute a lot of value to his ability to play 2b and 3B, but he really shouldn't ever play there. There are guys who play a lot of positions because they are versatile and guys who shuffle from position to position because they aren't any good at any of them. Steer falls into that latter group IMO.

[Ron Madden]

Guessing the reporter got that from the white Sox

It’s not exactly a feather in the cap of the reds “even though we have been hoarding prospects for like 5 years we couldn’t beat the Red Sox offer” isn’t exactly a flex.

That's impossible!
Any positive news about the Cincinnati Reds must be dismissed immediately!

[LeatherPants]

That's impossible!
Any positive news about the Cincinnati Reds must be dismissed immediately!

How is it positive news?

The Reds have had a fine offseason so far, but getting their name in the paper for “trying” isn’t a positive.


The whole thing is a cliche at this point (it’s not just the Reds that do this either).

[JCM11]

To be fair, that’s not from the reds it’s from a reporter. That shows they actually made a solid offer. They simply cannot top what the White Sox got from Boston.

Which, IMHO, says more about the reds amateur scouting dept than Krall not being able to pull off a trade. The fact the reds have made a bunch of trades for prospects and have been drafting high and can’t match what the Red Sox put together for crochet is rather alarming.

It says the White Sox wanted position players back and Boston has the best position player prospect group in MLB. If the White Sox had prioritized SP prospects the Reds would've matched up better. The Reds just graduated the #1 prospect in MLB in 2023. They passed on the headliner for Crochet(Kyle Teel) to draft Lowder which has worked out fine.

[Ron Madden]

How is it positive news?

The Reds have had a fine offseason so far, but getting their name in the paper for “trying” isn’t a positive.


The whole thing is a cliche at this point (it’s not just the Reds that do this either).

The post was meant too be joke with a smi!ie face