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    Grade the offseason.

    Ok, everyone all knows how many individuals feel about what has gone on this offseason. Without getting into the specifics again, please provide your grade for what the Reds have done this winter (A-F) with a BRIEF explanation of why.

    My grade: B. They had wholes to fill and they went out and filled them with established Major Leaguers rather than hope that a youngster will pan out.
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    Re: Grade the offseason.

    C-

    Hey, they didn't give up Kearns!!!
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    Re: Grade the offseason.

    A for effort. C for results.
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    Re: Grade the offseason.

    I agree. Though they didn't go out and pay for big name players, they filled their current needs (3rd base and Bullpin) and improved their starting pitching. They did this without trading the future away(Kearns, Dunn). I say B to B- is a fair rating.

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    Re: Grade the offseason.

    D

    They overspent on mediocre talent, potentially precluding LTC's for Dunn and Kearns, and allowing almost no future payroll flexibility with the expensive, underproductive tandem of Graves-Griffey-Casey (not as bad as the others)-Milton.

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    Re: Grade the offseason.

    C

    Primer, Turtlewax a new Muffler, some speakers for the back and a eightball gear shift knob. Not pretty, but it gets down the road faster than it looks despite the gas cost and oil leak.

    I wouldn't take it across the country though.

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    Re: Grade the offseason.

    C-

    They tried to do..something
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    Re: Grade the offseason.

    B+.

    Look, they needed desperately to address both starting pitching and bullpen issues, and find a bench. They did that. Now they have bought some time to let their younger arms mature without being thrown into the fire right away to start 2005. If Ortiz flames out, or the bullpen vets are less than spectacular, then they can go to the kids after giving them some more time to season.

    Unlike most of the this board, I like that they acquired a 29-year-old lefty w/out a history of arm problems. Sometimes guys like Milton pitch their best ball in their 30s.

    They are better now heading into spring training than they were when the season ended. In mid-December, I wouldn't have thought that possible. It's a start.

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    Re: Grade the offseason.

    B-.

    Eddie Murphy put it best. When you're out in the desert and haven't had anything to eat for days, that Ritz cracker tastes great.

    Now that we've had a few Ritz crackers, maybe next year we can actually get something a bit more substantial.

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    Re: Grade the offseason.

    C- is being grateful, enough said
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    Re: Grade the offseason.

    Quote Originally Posted by letsgojunior
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    potentially precluding LTC's for Dunn and Kearns.
    I forgot about that when I gave my grade. That is really upseting, but I would still give the offseason a C+. They dramaticly improved the team (even if it is mediocre). Joe Randa will revent them from rushing Edwin, the new starters will be better than last year's rotation, and the bullpin will be lights out.

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    Re: Grade the offseason.

    C-

    Out with the old, in with the old.
    Lots of churn, but precious little cream.

    Hey, when the Pirates say you give out ridiculous contracts…
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    Re: Grade the offseason.

    I give it a 7.
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    Re: Grade the offseason.

    I'll give them a "B".

    I can see how people complain about the specifics, but considering the wasteland reputation they have, I'm surprised they were able to get Randa, Milton, and Mercker.
    Beats the heck out of last offseason when they "saved" any payflex they had and did nothing with it.

    It's already too late to sign Dunn LTC (and save significant $$). Looks like they were determined to go year to year with Kearns as well.. Next year it will likely be too late for him as well. I hope Carl ponies up to keep them until they are free agent eligible though.
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    Re: Grade the offseason.

    Wow! Terrible grades. LOL. I'm giving them an A. Adding mucho payroll and filling all needs. A big thing is resigning LaRue, DJ, and not trading away our bench in the big 4 in the OF. Then going out and getting a good 3B and upgrading SS. Not to mention a good lefty and a couple other potential starters along with 3 BP guys. I don't understand how anyone can give the Reds a C or even D as some did. I can see B because there is no front line guy, but I think we upgraded 7 positions. That's unbelievable in my book. When you look at the rest of the division we have done the most. If we only didn't have so far to go.

    Tell me guys what would it take to get you an A. Signing Pedro and Schilling! No, really. What would it take. You have to be realistic. YOu know we aren't going to add payroll, but what would have been done differently. Remember, Dunn wouldn't sign Long Term and all pitchers have been WAY overpriced. I say good job Redlegs!

    Ok, beat me with a stick now.


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