Nice rip.........Some of you guys need to get off your calculators and baseball prospectus graphs and take a look at the game.
Nice rip.........Some of you guys need to get off your calculators and baseball prospectus graphs and take a look at the game.
Those 2 players were the best off season? wowOriginally Posted by westofyou
I say hi right back
Now who's being ungrateful?Originally Posted by AvesIce51
Code:CINCINNATI REDS SEASON 1998 RUNS CREATED/GAME RC/G 1 Reds 4.78 Outfield RUNS CREATED/GAME RC/G 1 Reds 4.74 CINCINNATI REDS SEASON 1998 OF RUNS CREATED/GAME vs. the league average displayed only--not a sorting criteria RUNS CREATED/GAME RC/G RC/G 1 Dmitri Young 6.08 0.99 2 Jeffrey Hammonds 5.82 0.73 3 Reggie Sanders 5.01 -.08 4 Melvin Nieves 4.60 -.49 5 Chris Stynes 4.20 -.89 6 Jon Nunnally 4.14 -.95 7 Tony Tarasco 4.05 -1.04 8 Pat Watkins 3.60 -1.49 9 Lenny Harris 3.27 -1.82 10 Mike Frank 2.55 -2.54 CINCINNATI REDS SEASON 1999 RUNS CREATED/GAME RC/G 1 Reds 5.54 Outfield RUNS CREATED/GAME RC/G 1 Reds 6.13 CINCINNATI REDS SEASON 1999 OF RUNS CREATED/GAME vs. the league average displayed only--not a sorting criteria RUNS CREATED/GAME RC/G RC/G 1 Greg Vaughn 6.64 1.07 2 Dmitri Young 6.26 0.69 3 Mike Cameron 6.20 0.63 4 Jeffrey Hammonds 6.01 0.44 5 Michael Tucker 5.08 -.49
Denny Neagle and Michael Tucker were also added that offseason.
I give the offseason moves a B+. They filled every hole on the team. Got a proven winning pitcher and left hand starter. The only reason it wasn't an A is I would have like to seen Dunn and/or Kearns locked up long term.
I know this isn't supposed to be a discussion thread about this, but it's possible that getting Milton, Ortiz, etc might actually make it EASIER to hold on to Dunn and Kearns. At least now they see ownership making an attempt to win.Originally Posted by letsgojunior
If the front office sat on its payflex, the Reds were looking at a potentially last place finish. That's going to drive Kearns/Dunn away in a hurry.
Players sometimes give a hometown discount if the team is legitimately trying to win. There's no guarantee Dunn will do that, but making him sit through another year of horrible pitching isn't going to make him want to stay either.
[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
We might as well kiss him gooddbye if you think that's the case.Originally Posted by REDREAD
"Baseball players are smarter than football players. How often do you see a baseball team penalized for too many men on the field?" ~ Jim Bouton
this was more of my response, but I challenged everyone to tell me what makes an A, B, etc. if the 10 so moves the Reds did this year doesn't cut it. Better at almost every position if you include experience like guys like DJ and LarRue got, Bench much better with Freel and one of the OF. Aurillia is now on the bench if not starting, 3 more pen guys including a lefty and 4 guys fighting for spots 4-5 that were all locks to start. I've had no viable responses. I'm glad to know I'm not the only one that feels the way you do.Originally Posted by AvesIce51
Go Reds!
D
For reasons that I've been saying all off season.
I appreciate the fact that they've spent money. I just wish they'd spent the money WELL.
B - it's going to be a fun season.
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For a team like the Reds? Here you go:Originally Posted by Reds1
A= Turned ballclub into definitive playoff contender
B= Improved Run Differential enough to project a 85-win+ season with an outside chance at the WildCard without counting on career years from 3/4 of the squad.
C= Improved Run Differential enough to project a .500 record (plus or minus 4 games)
D= Improved, but not significantly enough to project a winning ballclub and spent a lot of money doing it
F= Improved nowhere and/or spent a lot of money not improving
I'll give 'em a C-minus. And the only reason the offseason ranks that high is that the additional money spent potentially secures a higher payroll next season due to folks who might just buy more tickets because they equate money with performance.
But considering that it doesn't appear that there's a good chance that money will be well spent, I can see how folks are giving the offseason a "D".
"The problem with strikeouts isn't that they hurt your team, it's that they hurt your feelings..." --Rob Neyer
"The single most important thing for a hitter is to get a good pitch to hit. A good hitter can hit a pitch that’s over the plate three times better than a great hitter with a ball in a tough spot.”
--Ted Williams
Without using stats
Inking Eric Milton to a expensive 20 million plus contract is equal to giving that to Jack Billingham after the 1974 season. Ramon Ortiz is this years version of Greg Swindell, Rich Aurillia gives me Terry Pendleton feelings. Randa is a stopgap and not too expensive, thus making him easy to flip..... that said isn't Joe Randa just Brook Jacoby with a better glove?
I like the BP moves and I see how the additions help stop attrition of youngsters arms as does any inning eaters like Paul Wilson (who is more late career Mark Portugal than Pete Harnisch)
But as Guernsey said I think this will be a "fun season" the last two were not.... but I can still follow the Reds without blowing sunshine up their butts too... even with my Simon Bar Sinister approach the game.
Originally Posted by SteelSD
How does a D grade ever connote "improvement?" So "F" is the baseline?
That's not typically how grades work. C is baseline--no improvement/no regression, net. D is regression. F is severe regression.
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
It's all relative, FCB. I contend that if a team in the Reds position did nothing to improve themselves during an offseason, that's a complete failure.Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
I know how typical grades work. But baseball isn't a typical situation.
"The problem with strikeouts isn't that they hurt your team, it's that they hurt your feelings..." --Rob Neyer
"The single most important thing for a hitter is to get a good pitch to hit. A good hitter can hit a pitch that’s over the plate three times better than a great hitter with a ball in a tough spot.”
--Ted Williams
Of course they will. All the nay sayers will become the guys saying "I told you signing Randa/Milton/Aurilia/etc. would pay off"Originally Posted by Matt700wlw
That's how sports goes. You've the eternal optamists, the eternal pesamists, and the fair weather fan.
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