7/20/06 - Reds vs Mets Game Thread

[Tony Cloninger]

Like i said....i refrain from over bashing, or any bashing at all.....but Narron's comments in the Enquirer.... Something to the effect that he PH for EE due to SH hardly ever striking out. 1) How does that logic apply when RA or BP are not exactly Paul Waner and Tony Gwynn. 2) He uses the "funky delivery" quote....made famous by BB in regards to DW as the reason he does not start Griffey.

Bottom line....he still has no real confidence in EE......numbers need not apply.

The quote he uses for CD...... tough....aggressive.....sounds good, but then he throws in the young guy quote. Who cares what the age is...... aggressive is aggressive.... bad play is a bad play, does not matter if you are young or old.

I have pretty much come to the way of thinking....that JN...as a lot of people have posted, does not trust young players. Sees them differently than the older vets.....does not apply the same logic in the same situations...when it comes to dealing with each player.

The numbers say he should have PH for RA.

Maybe if he keeps making these same moves..... this will show the FO that they may have made a mistake in the extension...or they see that JN is not the guy to lead what will become a younger team in the next few years.

Didn't Tom Kelly start getting a rep in his later years in MINN for not being real patient with younger players?

[Falls City Beer]

Who cares what Narron does or doesn't do at this point?

The real story is the bust that is Majewski. Two trading chips for him. Unreal.

M2 called it--Krivsky just purchased a post-collapse Reidling with the handful of tradeable MLB talent on the Reds.

I'm no longer just skeptical of Wayne, I actively distrust him.

[reds44]

Who cares what Narron does or doesn't do at this point?

The real story is the bust that is Majewski. Two trading chips for him. Unreal.

M2 called it--Krivsky just purchased a post-collapse Reidling with the handful of tradeable MLB talent on the Reds.

I'm no longer just skeptical of Wayne, I actively distrust him.

3 appearances, and today wasn't even his fault.

You can't give the Mets extra outs.

Kearns and Felipe are sucking pretty badly right now aslo.

[Patrick Bateman]

I don't really think this is really a situation of Hat vs. EE, but really Phillips vs. EE. I think Hat was the best player available for that situation and then EE. We could have shifted Aurillia to second instead of 3rd easily.

I would prefer to have Hat be the second guy anyways because he is more of a DP threat. I don't think it was that stupid of a move, I just would ahve done it differently.

[Patrick Bateman]

Who cares what Narron does or doesn't do at this point?

The real story is the bust that is Majewski. Two trading chips for him. Unreal.

M2 called it--Krivsky just purchased a post-collapse Reidling with the handful of tradeable MLB talent on the Reds.

I'm no longer just skeptical of Wayne, I actively distrust him.

It's only been 3 games for Majewski. It's hard to judge the guy on 2 and 2/3rds of an inning. He's given up lots of runs and simply isn't a shut-down reliever, but there is a lot of bad luck that has occurred to make Majewski's stats look bad, and in such a small sample it really makes it easier to make it look worse than it is. He wont be great, but he should be a pretty solid reliever (3.50 to 4.00 ERA) and that really hasn't changed in mind since the day we got him.

[BuckeyeRedleg]

It's only been 3 games for Majewski. It's hard to judge the guy on 2 and 2/3rds of an inning. He's given up lots of runs and simply isn't a shut-down reliever, but there is a lot of bad luck that has occurred to make Majewski's stats look bad, and in such a small sample it really makes it easier to make it look worse than it is. He wont be great, but he should be a pretty solid reliever (3.50 to 4.00 ERA) and that really hasn't changed in mind since the day we got him.

But there were already questions raised by Cyclone and many others on here, right after the trade, suggesting that Majewski was nothing more than an average pitcher that took advantage of playing half his games in a big-time pitcher's park.

Magic is/was smoke and mirrors.

It was weak research by our front office.

Of course, maybe they just like him because he's so skinny. You know that Hancock guy is pretty beefy.

[princeton]

But there were already questions raised by Cyclone and many others on here, right after the trade, suggesting that Majewski was nothing more than an average pitcher that took advantage of playing half his games in a big-time pitcher's park.

Magic is/was smoke and mirrors.

It was weak research by our front office.

this post makes me laugh. I thank you.

[BuckeyeRedleg]

this post makes me laugh. I thank you.

um, ok. You're welcome.

[BuckeyeRedleg]

He's given up lots of runs and simply isn't a shut-down reliever, but there is a lot of bad luck that has occurred to make Majewski's stats look bad, and in such a small sample it really makes it easier to make it look worse than it is. He wont be great, but he should be a pretty solid reliever (3.50 to 4.00 ERA) and that really hasn't changed in mind since the day we got him.

One more thing. He's also had a lot of good luck (BABIP), prior to coming here that make his "solid reliever" 3.50 to 4.00 ERA, perhaps, look better than what it really is.

[M2]

Majewski strikes me as easy to scout. He gets into too much trouble for a guy who lacks an out pitch. I'd think you could never once look into his stats and that would shine through.

[Matt700wlw]

The real story is the bust that is Majewski. Two trading chips for him. Unreal.

A little soon, don't you think?