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Thread: Aug. 30th, 2006 CIN v. LAD .. *Fingers Crossed*

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    Re: Aug. 30th, 2006 CIN v. LAD .. *Fingers Crossed*

    Quote Originally Posted by OldRightHander View Post
    Well, this is the OldRightHander, rounding third and heading for bed...Good night everyone.
    You've made it through the last two games, you can suck it up and get through this one.
    "...You just have a wider lens than one game."
    --Former Reds GM Wayne Krivsky, on why he didn't fly Josh Hamilton to Colorado for one game.

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    Re: Aug. 30th, 2006 CIN v. LAD .. *Fingers Crossed*

    Please...baseball gods...help us pull this one out somehow.
    “The crows seem to be calling my name,” thought Caw.

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    Re: Aug. 30th, 2006 CIN v. LAD .. *Fingers Crossed*

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Marty just raised a good point...you see very little fire with this team. People walking to their positions, lollygagging around.
    I'll take issue with Marty's words on that every time considering that everything done since before the ASB was allegedly to change the team's makeup and chemistry.

    Marty's full of poo. Winning breeds perception of effort. Losing breeds the opposite. The defining characteristic isn't effort. It's talent.
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    Re: Aug. 30th, 2006 CIN v. LAD .. *Fingers Crossed*

    Quote Originally Posted by Cedric View Post
    He's 94 mph straight
    And that's the biggest problem of his that I see. No movement.

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    Re: Aug. 30th, 2006 CIN v. LAD .. *Fingers Crossed*

    Quote Originally Posted by alloverjr View Post
    And that's the biggest problem of his that I see. No movement.
    Homer Bailey's fastball doesn't have much movement either. Location is the key.

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    Re: Aug. 30th, 2006 CIN v. LAD .. *Fingers Crossed*

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    If they were DFA'd somewhere else, they won't do crap here.

    I would never completely close the book on DFA'd pitchers. It's unlikely, but there is the occasional success stroy.

    Bobby Jenks comes to mind. He obviously had age on his side unlike the guys we have picked up, but there is the occasional gem to uncover.

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    Re: Aug. 30th, 2006 CIN v. LAD .. *Fingers Crossed*

    Quote Originally Posted by SteelSD View Post
    I'll take issue with Marty's words on that every time considering that everything done since before the ASB was allegedly to change the team's makeup and chemistry.

    Marty's full of poo. Winning breeds perception of effort. Losing breeds the opposite. The defining characteristic isn't effort. It's talent.

    I don't think he meant the whole season, but in this stretch. I don't know that, but I would agree if he means in the short term.

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    Re: Aug. 30th, 2006 CIN v. LAD .. *Fingers Crossed*

    I feel sick.
    “The crows seem to be calling my name,” thought Caw.

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    Re: Aug. 30th, 2006 CIN v. LAD .. *Fingers Crossed*

    Quote Originally Posted by Austin Kearns View Post
    I would never completely close the book on DFA'd pitchers. It's unlikely, but there is the occasional success stroy.

    Bobby Jenks comes to mind. He obviously had age on his side unlike the guys we have picked up, but there is the occasional gem to uncover.
    After watching Bobby Jenks pitch over the past 2 seasons I cant believe someone would let him go.

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    Re: Aug. 30th, 2006 CIN v. LAD .. *Fingers Crossed*

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Marty just raised a good point...you see very little fire with this team. People walking to their positions, lollygagging around.
    I was at all three of the losses in San Francisco and noticed this as well. I remarked to my friend that they looked like a 90-loss team hurrying up to get a flight.

    That's not good. I had hoped that the addition of battle-tested vets like Guardado, Holly, etc., would have upped the intensity, but I guess when you have our kind of roster turnover it's hard to foster such a change.

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    Re: Aug. 30th, 2006 CIN v. LAD .. *Fingers Crossed*

    Quote Originally Posted by Austin Kearns View Post
    I would never completely close the book on DFA'd pitchers. It's unlikely, but there is the occasional success stroy.

    Bobby Jenks comes to mind. He obviously had age on his side unlike the guys we have picked up, but there is the occasional gem to uncover.
    True, AK, but...one in a hundred. If you're lucky.

    Spend some cash (and not on 39-yr old lefthanders who are over the hill) and get pitchers who have velocity and movement. And have been successful in the past.
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    Re: Aug. 30th, 2006 CIN v. LAD .. *Fingers Crossed*

    Quote Originally Posted by Aronchis View Post
    Homer Bailey's fastball doesn't have much movement either. Location is the key.

    Never seen Homer pitch or read a scouting report. And while I'll agree location is important as hell, you're not going to have it every outing. Movement can make up for those times.

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    Re: Aug. 30th, 2006 CIN v. LAD .. *Fingers Crossed*

    Cripes, do the Dodgers fans boo EVERYTHING that doesn't favor the Dodgers, even if it's earned? I've never heard much about Dodgers fans being vulgar, but through my radio they've sounded awful this entire series.
    There is no such thing as a pitching prospect.

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    Re: Aug. 30th, 2006 CIN v. LAD .. *Fingers Crossed*

    Can you say 4.5 back in the Central??
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    Re: Aug. 30th, 2006 CIN v. LAD .. *Fingers Crossed*

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    I don't think he meant the whole season, but in this stretch. I don't know that, but I would agree if he means in the short term.
    Then the moves that were positioned to change team "culture" (at best) didn't change team culture. That's not a player issue.
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