“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
For those who were wondering why so little actual game facts are contained in game threads, it is because the score is evident by the nature of the posts and who is posting. Reading about the impact of "the trade" in a blowout game sounds like someone who has been singing 999 bottles of beer on the wall and is on about bottle 53 and has sung through each verse.
I find it hard to believe Jr ever thought to himself, "I gotta step it up, Lopez isn't here any more". Same with Dunn or Hatteburg. I don't think they'd approach an at bat any different if they suddenly were playing for the Mud Hens so not having AK or Lopez wouldn't make a witt of difference to them, IMO.
I think it's reasonable to consider that Philips, Ross, Freel and EE started pressing thinking they had to pull some extra weight. They are younger and less experenced so I think you raise a valid point that the loss of AK and Lopez would have some psycological impact on them that would effect them at the plate.
If there was a direct cause and effect (ie, the trade triggered a collective slump) however, I would have thought it would have shown up much sooner if that were the case. .
Last edited by Ltlabner; 09-17-2006 at 05:29 PM.
Nothing more interesting than someone who points out that people point out the shortcomings of their favorite team.
Why don't you offer something by way of discussion? That is, besides your bankrupt thesis that Wayne is doing what Marvin Lewis has done with the Bengals.
“And when finally they sense that some position cannot be sustained, they do not re-examine their ideas. Instead, they simply change the subject.” Jamie Galbraith
If that was what Pena, Kearns and Lopez were than the Reds could use a big order of nothing. They each had their warts but they are productive players even if you don'e want to admit it. Pena actually brought something but he likely had the lowest value of the three. I am sure the Theo would have given the Reds a bit more for Kearns than Pena.
Last edited by traderumor; 09-17-2006 at 05:20 PM.
You sorta' forgot the .372 OBP.
Post ASB:
Kearns: .372 OBP
Lopez: .378 OBP
And that's while playing half their games in a park that saps power. You don't think the Reds could use some of that rather than starting Dewayne Wise and Todd Hollandsworth in their Outfield during a last-gasp WC chase?
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