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    Re: 8/30/07 - Reds vs Pirates Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Majewski, Bray, Burton, Stormy.

    That's your tandem, get used to it.

    The occasionally nasty boys?
    “I don’t care,” Votto said of passing his friend and former teammate. “He’s in the past. Bye-bye, Jay.”


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    Re: 8/30/07 - Reds vs Pirates Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Wheelhouse View Post
    It has been my understanding that a third out being a force prevents a run scoring only if the out is on the batter heading to first base. Otherwise, it is a timing play, and in this instance, the timing would dictate Griffey scored.
    Lets say instead of hitting he ball into leftfield, EE had hit the ball to the thirdbaseman, who raced Dunn to the thirdbase bag and beat him. Lets also assume that Griffey had reached home prior to the thirdbaseman touching third.

    You're saying the run would count because the force out wasn't at first and Griffey scored before thethird out.

    That's not correct.That run wouldn't count. A force out is a force out.

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    Re: 8/30/07 - Reds vs Pirates Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by RFS62 View Post
    You misunderstand
    If that is the case, then an appeal makes no sense whatsoever. Dunn should simply be called out when he crosses home plate, as he cannot return to third at that point, not on appeal.
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    Re: 8/30/07 - Reds vs Pirates Game Thread

    How many times do second basemen and shortstops pull their foot off the bag before they get the ball (or never even touch the bag) on DP turns.

    If umps are going to be picky, they need to be consistent.

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    Re: 8/30/07 - Reds vs Pirates Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt700wlw View Post
    Majewski, Bray, Burton, Stormy.

    That's your tandem, get used to it.

    With Majewski picking up the pace like he has lately I can get used to that.

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    Re: 8/30/07 - Reds vs Pirates Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckeyeRedleg View Post
    How many times do second basemen and shortstops pull their foot off the bag before they get the ball (or never even touch the bag) on DP turns.

    If umps are going to be picky, they need to be consistent.
    The umps "give" on that play to prevent injuries.

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    Re: 8/30/07 - Reds vs Pirates Game Thread

    Well....that's a bummer...

    His first mistake in months.

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    Re: 8/30/07 - Reds vs Pirates Game Thread

    damn

    left it up over the plate
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    Re: 8/30/07 - Reds vs Pirates Game Thread

    Pete may have over managed a little there. Not that I completely disagreed with bringing in Burton, but I don't know why he didn't just leave Bray in to face Batista.
    “I don’t care,” Votto said of passing his friend and former teammate. “He’s in the past. Bye-bye, Jay.”

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    Re: 8/30/07 - Reds vs Pirates Game Thread

    Reds should still be up by 1...


    No, I won't drop it

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    Re: 8/30/07 - Reds vs Pirates Game Thread

    jb's not supposed to come in until the 8th

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    Re: 8/30/07 - Reds vs Pirates Game Thread

    I was getting ready to say that Burton can't go the rest of the season without giving up a run.
    "I know a lot about the law and various other lawyerings."

    Hitters who avoid outs are the funnest.

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    Re: 8/30/07 - Reds vs Pirates Game Thread

    I watch Bray come out after pitching to one batter, and striking him out and I'm thinking, "This is what Narron used to do to the bullpen and screw it up all the time". Hope it works for Mackinen.
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    Re: 8/30/07 - Reds vs Pirates Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Tom Servo View Post
    Pete may have over managed a little there. Not that I completely disagreed with bringing in Burton, but I don't know why he didn't just leave Bray in to face Batista.
    If Burton had retired Batista, I doubt anyone would have mentioned leaving Bray in. Batisa has a better chance of going deep vs.Bray.

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    Re: 8/30/07 - Reds vs Pirates Game Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by PuffyPig View Post
    The umps "give" on that play to prevent injuries.
    And if Dunn "reaches" to make sure he hits the bag in an awkward stride maybe he pulls a Jason Kendall and breaks his leg.

    The point is, that him missing the bag by a millimeter (if he even missed it) gave him no advantage to score in that instance. He would have scored anyway had he touched it.

    It just seems like it's a case of an umpire trying to be bigger than the game to make up for a shortcoming somewhere.


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