8/30/07 - Reds vs Pirates Game Thread

[oneupper]

George and Chris still haven't figured it out.

[flyer85]

You are taught to hit the inside corner, if you miss the bag you either miss it because you come up short or long. He was not that short or long, the ump has to be saying he missed the corner(which is unlikely)

[pedro]

I wonder what we are protesting.

whether griffey's run counts or not.

interesting play. never seen that before.

[PuffyPig]

They get no runs...they're saying the Dunn out would have been a force out for the 3rd out...Edwin gets a FC...and the Reds get nothing.

Nice job, guys.

Dunn was a force out. They touched third before Dunn touched the bag. It's the exact same as if they had hit a grounder to third and he touched the base.

On a force out, it doesn't matter if therun crossed before the out is made.

What amazes me is the announcers don't now the rule, nor did the official scorer.

[Matt700wlw]

Dunn was a force out. They touched third before Dunn touched the bag. It's the exact same as if they had hit a grounder to third and he touched the base.

On a force out, it doesn't matter if therun crossed before the out is made.

What amazes me is the announcers don't now the rule, nor did the official scorer.

I got it...I've just never seen it before.

I'm not sure I will ever see it again

[Tom Servo]

Edwin is a getting a huge raw deal here.

[jesusfan]

Dunn is point shaving...

[Doc. Scott]

It makes sense to me. If the out would have been a forceout (which it would have since the bases were loaded), then the run doesn't count because the force is the final out of the inning.

If runners had been only on second and third, say, the Griffey run would have counted because then the out at third is treated as if Dunn was advancing at his own risk.

[RFS62]

+ =

You're killing me, Matt.

[oneupper]

Adam Merkle?

[Playadlc]

Edwin should have had a hit and two RBI's, instead he gets a fielder's choice.

Talk about getting screwed.

[KronoRed]

I blame Jerry Narron.

Sounds good.

[RFS62]

Dunn was a force out. They touched third before Dunn touched the bag. It's the exact same as if they had hit a grounder to third and he touched the base.

On a force out, it doesn't matter if therun crossed before the out is made.

What amazes me is the announcers don't now the rule, nor did the official scorer.

Yep.

Edwin really got boned on that one.

[PuffyPig]

It makes sense to me. If the out would have been a forceout (which it would have since the bases were loaded), then the run doesn't count because the force is the final out of the inning.

If runners had been only on second and third, say, the Griffey run would have counted because then the out at third is treated as if Dunn was advancing at his own risk.

Thta's exactly right.

The announcers are saying the run didn't count becasue Griffey had not scored before Dunn hit third. That's sort of true, because Dunn still hasn't hit third. But on a force play, the timing is not relevant.

[CTA513]

FSN didn't really have any real good camera angles, but it looked like Dunns left foot was about to hit the inside of the bag before someone blocked the view.