It's a conspiracyOriginally Posted by CTA513
It's a conspiracy
So what this really comes down to is Griffey not hustling into home
2-0 Mil too.... We need to go off and win this game...
The call is wrong. The runner is not out until, on the following play, the pitcher throws to the third baseman and he tags the bag. At that point Griffey has already scored. Look at it this way: why the necessity for the appeal? Why can't the ump just call the runner out for missing the bag? Dumb call.
"Don't trust any statistics you did not fake yourself."--Winston Churchill
Has anyone checked on BadFundamentals?
I wonder too. However, the umpire seems to think he missed it and so did at least one Pirates member b/c they appealed it. If two saw it that way (the only one that counts of course is the man in blue), then I have to lean towards he missed it.
nope. it was force play at 3rd.
School's out. What did you expect?
It doesn't seem the Reds were arguing whether or not Dunn had missed the base, either.
I almost feel like I am watching this game on acid.
Dock Ellis approved
Go Gators!
Dude, thats not even close to true.
The reason it happens after the play is because, only only because, its an appeal. Its treated as a force play. On a force play it doesn't matter what happens on the play, how long the play lasts, nothing, its all about a simple force out.
Last edited by Puffy; 08-30-2007 at 08:29 PM.
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That may make it more interesting....maybe the base could tell us if Dunn's foot stepped on it.
Nay. The runner is not out until the ball arrives at the base in question, which happened on the appeal, AFTER Griffey scored. Dunn could have missed the the third base bag, and returned to it, being safe. How many times have you seen a runner miss home plate going by it, then go back and tag it, being safe?
"Don't trust any statistics you did not fake yourself."--Winston Churchill
Once you cross homeplate, you can't go back to a base you missed. You can tag home, if you missed homeplate however.
I'm not talking about Dunn's run I'm referring to Griffey's. It should be a tie game now. It will berectified.
"Don't trust any statistics you did not fake yourself."--Winston Churchill
Listen to what everyone else is telling you. It was a force out, it does not matter if Griffey scored before they touched the base. Just like an out at first base with 2 outs. The umps got it right, I was hoping for a while that we got a way with one.
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Hitters who avoid outs are the funnest.
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