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    Haren's value

    Possible packages for Haren are being debated in the other forum with some being unwilling to trade Bruce for Haren and some limiting it to one of Votto/Hamilton and one of Bailey/Cueto.

    Haren's #'s are impressive but looking at his game by game performance shows how dominant he is on a consistent basis. In 34starts, he had 27 quality starts (and only a couple were the 6 IP, 3 ER variety - lots of 1 run, 2 run games). With this offense, and pitching against NL lineups and Cordero closing, he's a 20 game winner. The Reds become the team to beat in the Central. An October rotation of Haren/Harang/Arroyo would be very difficult to match up with.

    I would start low, and try other options but be very tempted to part with 3 of the big 5 if that's what it would take give the value Haren brings to this team.

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    Re: Haren's value

    It will require 2, not 3. Beane is greedy, but not unrealistic.

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    Re: Haren's value

    I would be willing to part with Votto, Hamilton, and Maloney for him...

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    Agree, but Harang>Haren, so I'd put it Harang, Haren, Arroyo.

    The A's are asking for 2 top prospects, so they'd probably want Bruce, true, but I also read that they're looking for 3rd base, SS, and pitching prospects.

    I'd gladly do: EdE, Janish, Bailey/Cueto, -- If they don't want Janish, then Stubbs or Wood for Haren.

    I don't see them getting a better offer than that, especially for the type of position players they need.
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    Re: Haren's value

    Jayson Stark is reporting that the A's actually want more for Haren than the Twins are asking for Santana. If that is the case, nevermind.

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    My only minor league untouchable it Jay Bruce.

    If these asking prices are correct for one pitcher........I may be content to just stand pat and take my chances with our prospects.

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    Stubbs, Edwin Encarnacion (They want Chavez out if I remember correctly), Juan Francisco, Cueto, and Viola/Bray/Roenicke for Haren and Duchscherer.

    Or Juan Francisco and Edwin Encarnacion for Harden.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamDunn View Post
    Stubbs, Edwin Encarnacion (They want Chavez out if I remember correctly), Juan Francisco, Cueto, and Viola/Bray/Roenicke for Haren and Duchscherer.

    Or Juan Francisco and Edwin Encarnacion for Harden.
    Exactly! They'd want EdE and although it would hurt, I would give him to them, although I think it will need to be more - remember we'd have Haren for 3 yrs. I'd give EdE & Bailey/Cueto & Violoa/Bray/Roenicke ...

    Remember, it's a seller's market for pitching, so, we'll have to overpay ... the key is overpaying while not being stupid

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    Re: Haren's value

    What's Haren's contract status? What chance do we have of keeping him for the long term?

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    The A's want two top of the line pitching prospects, plus a major league ready offensive power hitter for Haren. That means Bailey, Cueto, and Hamilton. Nothing less will get it done, which is why I say...nevermind.

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    What about Ryan Freel straight up for Dan Haren?

    Nice!

    But really, Santana is available, so try to trade for him with your Surplus of Prospects. If there was even talk of a 4 year/ 46 Million Dollar deal for Cordero. Trade for Santana and give him Zito/Zambrano Money. Ink him LTC.

    JR

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    Re: Haren's value

    Why not Dunn, Freel, and Cueto?, or Maloney if you think dunn and freel are too much with cueto...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahhhorsepoo View Post
    Why not Dunn, Freel, and Cueto?, or Maloney if you think dunn and freel are too much with cueto...
    I just have this strong feeling that a 5-6 year deal will be inked with Dunn and the Reds in the coming months.

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    Beane is an idiot so he will probably end up trading him for nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bip Roberts View Post
    Beane is an idiot so he will probably end up trading him for nothing

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