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    Re: Dunn traded to DBacks

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    PD said that at least one of the players would be a name that would be recognized. He also said he knows but had beeen sworn to secrecy. C. Trent said almost the same thing. I think it's out there. Now all we need is a chair, a light, and water torture and we'll know.
    If true, that sounds a lot like Micah Owings.


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    Re: Dunn traded to DBacks

    Well, Dallas Buck isn't what you want to see coming back as the principle in a trade like this so I'm going to have to assume he's actually a tertiary piece or, at best, the second best of the three pieces acquired considering the Reds actually threw in cash.

    I'll also assume at least one of the PTBNL is an offense player and that leaves it wide open because the D'Back's don't have many of those laying around in the minors.

    If rumors of the two PTBNL being agreed upon, but not announced, I'd take that to mean that both are players the D'Backs may be holding in reserve in case they needed to use them at the MLB level this season. Micah Owings? Rumored to be dangled in an effort to grab Teix, and Owings has the kind of minor league comps you like for a guy who isn't a K brute (0.38 HR/9, 2.66 BB/9, 7.94 K/9). Smells a lot like Aaron Harang (MiLB 0.56 HR/9, 2.48 BB/9, 8.06 HR/9). If Owings is included in this deal, I'd consider it a really solid deal.

    I'm probably nowhere near as emotional as some probably thought I'd be about this trade. That being said, depending on the eventual return, this could be at least a five-year death blow to the franchise. The Reds actually did have a window and they've done pretty much everything imaginable to screw things up with bad drafts, poor trades, bad managerial and front office choices, and poor spending. They may have a window going forward should the kids develop, but unless Jocketty can walk the razor's edge in the offseason, that window will get nothing but smaller without Dunn in the mix.

    Smells like a five-year plan. Now it's up to Jocketty to convince us that it's a two-year plan in disguise.
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    Re: Dunn traded to DBacks

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    Eric Byrnes?
    Randy Johnson ?
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    Re: Dunn traded to DBacks

    Quote Originally Posted by jojo View Post
    Assuming no injury, there really isn't a compelling reason to believe Arroyo, Harang, and Cueto will continue allowing homers at a 14-15% HR/FB rate.
    Why can't they in this park? And pitchers like Arroyo go downhill and stay there all the time.

    Harang will hopefully bounce back.
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    Re: Dunn traded to DBacks

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    Eric Byrnes?
    Why would Arizona do that? They are contending. Dunn will be lining up next to Byrnes, not be the replacement.

    It's minor league players on the 40 man.

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    Re: Dunn traded to DBacks

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    Eric Byrnes?
    good guess... I'm really thinking we got a return like Buck/Owings/Javier Prito...
    However, I would much rather have Buck/Owings/Byrnes... But, that's two names I've heard of...

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    Re: Dunn traded to DBacks

    Quote Originally Posted by corkedbat View Post
    * What does this mean for Votto (!B or LF?) and/or EdE (3B? 1B? or LF?)?

    I think, now that Dunn is gone, this opens up 1B for Votto and 3B for EE.

    Expect to see them manning those positions for the rest of the year and probably next year as well.

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    Re: Dunn traded to DBacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Austin Kearns View Post
    I think father forgot the blue font.
    Ah.
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    Re: Dunn traded to DBacks

    I wonder and I hope I am wrong if the offensive player might not be Chad Tracy. Remember he was rumored to be part of a deal to the Reds around trade deadline time. Maybe he is stilll part of the deal.

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    Re: Dunn traded to DBacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Austin Kearns View Post
    Why would Arizona do that? They are contending. Dunn will be lining up next to Byrnes, not be the replacement.

    It's minor league players on the 40 man.
    Actually, Dunn will be playing along side Conor Jackson and Chris Young... heard of em?

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    Re: Dunn traded to DBacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Austin Kearns View Post
    Why would Arizona do that? They are contending. Dunn will be lining up next to Byrnes, not be the replacement.

    It's minor league players on the 40 man.
    It could be a major league player who isn't named until after the season.

    I'm not saying it is, but it could be.

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    Re: Dunn traded to DBacks

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    I wonder and I hope I am wrong if the offensive player might not be Chad Tracy. Remember he was rumored to be part of a deal to the Reds around trade deadline time. Maybe he is stilll part of the deal.
    If it's Tracy, it won't be Owings as well. It's one or the other.
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    Re: Dunn traded to DBacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Reds Fanatic View Post
    I wonder and I hope I am wrong if the offensive player might not be Chad Tracy. Remember he was rumored to be part of a deal to the Reds around trade deadline time. Maybe he is stilll part of the deal.
    Chad Tracy / Micah Owings / Dallas Buck

    Tracy takes over at 3B, EdE moves to the OF. That would make sense, right?
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    Re: Dunn traded to DBacks

    Quote Originally Posted by RedEye View Post
    Chad Tracy / Micah Owings / Dallas Buck

    Tracy takes over at 3B, EdE moves to the OF. That would make sense, right?
    That would be nothing short of an outstanding return for Dunn. Considering the market right now.
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    Re: Dunn traded to DBacks

    I would take Tracy/Owings/Buck every day of the week and twice on Sunday... Whitesell/Owings/Bucks would be better though... in my opinion...


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