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    reds vs cards 8/17

    someone please post lineup. I'm not home to do it.


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    Re: reds vs cards 8/17

    Reds

    Dickerson CF
    Hairston LF
    Bruce RF
    Phillips, B 2B
    Valentin 1B
    Encarnacion 3B
    Keppinger SS
    Bako C
    Volquez P (14-5) 2.86 era 146 SO


    Cards

    Schumaker CF
    Ludwick RF
    Puljols 1B
    Ankiel LF
    Glaus 3B
    Kennedy 2B
    Molina C
    Loshe P (13-5) 3.92 ERA 88 SO
    Izturis SS

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    Re: reds vs cards 8/17

    So Votto is back from bereavement, but Valentin continues to play over him at 1b?

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    Re: reds vs cards 8/17

    Votto back, but not in lineup

    By Hal McCoy

    Staff Writer

    Sunday, August 17, 2008

    CINCINNATI — Joey Votto was in uniform Saturday, Aug. 16, returning from bereavement leave, but in no mood to play baseball, to smile or to chat about his ordeal.

    Reds manager Dusty Baker understands fully. He had hoped to keep Votto on bereavement for 10 days, "But we had to activate him because the rules say only seven days for bereavement, and that time is up."

    Baker did not put Votto in the lineup Saturday night, nor does he plan to start him today, and said, "I was hoping to let him workout Saturday and today and with an off day Monday, he would be ready Tuesday. But the rules say he gets only a week, so he had to be on the roster."

    To make room for Votto, the Reds had to return infielder Adam Rosales back to Class AAA Louisville, but not before he got his first major-league hit.

    Asked if Votto might pinch hit, Baker said, "I don't know if he'll be emotionally and physically ready. He hasn't hit. But, we'll see."

    Javier Valentin, playing most of the time during Votto's absence, started Saturday and will start this afternoon.

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    Re: reds vs cards 8/17

    Thanks Matt, good to know.

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    Re: reds vs cards 8/17

    Lohse since the All-Star break: 5.65 ERA, 36.2 Innings, 43 Hits, 23 Runs, 7 HRs, 7 BB, 29 Ks

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    Re: reds vs cards 8/17

    How terribly sad for Votto.
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    Re: reds vs cards 8/17

    Quote Originally Posted by CTA513 View Post
    Lohse since the All-Star break: 5.65 ERA, 36.2 Innings, 43 Hits, 23 Runs, 7 HRs, 7 BB, 29 Ks
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    Re: reds vs cards 8/17

    I have no idea why the LaRussa bat the pitcher 8th thing bothers me so much, but it does...

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    Re: reds vs cards 8/17

    Then put him on the DL......and let Rosales at least start a few. Is it too much to ask for someone to ask Baker...why he never started 1 game?

    Not trying to sound cold to JV at all...but his heart is not in it....why force him to be here?

    I think having the reds pre-game show with STL highlights and another lovefest over pujols.....wow...he is good? really? i did not know that....thanks ernie and bert.........is really put me in a foul mood.....that and fracturing my thumb in 6 places during a company softball game. :thumbdown

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    Re: reds vs cards 8/17

    Nice start for Hamilton's return...

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    Re: reds vs cards 8/17

    Hamilton?

    Btw...How's Edinson's velocity? Gameday's radar isn't working.

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    Re: reds vs cards 8/17

    Very nice first inning for Volquez. 8 pitches, 7 strikes, 3 outs, no hits. After last night, this bullpen could really use a breather.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: reds vs cards 8/17

    Dickerson with his first MLB single.

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    Re: reds vs cards 8/17

    Hit and run here?


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