I disagree. Bako pointed toward first. Nothing to be done, there was nobody on third, since Kepp went to 2nd. Votto throw not too good, but he had it beat anyway. Nice safety squeeze bunt by the Cubs.Originally Posted by WVRedsFan
I disagree. Bako pointed toward first. Nothing to be done, there was nobody on third, since Kepp went to 2nd. Votto throw not too good, but he had it beat anyway. Nice safety squeeze bunt by the Cubs.
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How is that run earned?
He's thinking squeeze and looked home like he should have been. Bako pointed to first, and that's where the ball went. He made a good play.
Bako either messed up by pointing to first, or someone else made a mistake by not sliding over to cover third. Outside of just not liking Edwin, I can't see how someone blames him for that. He's thinking out first, trusting his catcher to tell him where to go.
Pretty sure you can't assume an out on a tag play. The error was for allowing Fukudome to advance to 3B.
Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.
that would have done nothing, there was no moving to cover third thus no reason for Soto to retreat.
If Edwin turns then the only chance for an out is a footrace to the bag, which EE would have lost.
And with the lineup turning over, I'm not sure you want the bags loaded with just 1 out. The only thing wrong about that play was the poor throw by Votto and the poor catch by Bako.
Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.
Mostly I agree with you. But a glance back *might* have slowed Soto down long enough so Votto has more time for a better throw home.
The majority of the blame falls on Bako, a little less on Votto's throw, a little less on Kepp standing at 2B and finally EE (with by far the smallest amount of blame, although he's sure to recieve the heap of the blame).
Last edited by Ltlabner; 08-19-2008 at 09:32 PM.
EE's choice was to throw it to 1st or look at Soto and have Harden be safe at first. Keppinger should have ran over and cover 3rd, if you want to blame anybody blame him.
There's no way to blame EE for the results of that play if you saw/understood what happened there.
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Harden would have beat the throw to 1st. EE did "glance" back to 3rd.
No, not personal. He should have looked back at third which would have frozen the runner regardless of whether or not he got the out at first. That result would have meant no run. The result we saw was one run--not what you want.
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Dusty playing Keppinger and Patterson over Hairston makes no sense at all.
Wow. Reds get robbed. Keppinger didn't come close to swinging. Are these guys Cubs fans?
Bases would have been loaded with 1 out for Soriano. I'll trade one run to avoid the big inning.
Unless Hariston is hurt. I wonder...
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