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    Re: Reds vs Rockies 8/23/08

    Hopefully a PH'er for Bako. The excuse for him starting is for volquez...and he's not in there. Get Bako OUT!


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    Re: Reds vs Rockies 8/23/08

    Cabrera for Bako...

    Javy? for pitcher...

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    Re: Reds vs Rockies 8/23/08

    Why is Rosales on the roster? Dusty absolutely refuses to use him.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Reds vs Rockies 8/23/08

    Wow...dusty's thinking. Cabrera PH'ing for Bako.

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    Re: Reds vs Rockies 8/23/08

    Hanigan on deck...not Javy.

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    Re: Reds vs Rockies 8/23/08

    Hanigan in the ondeck circle. Again, a decision I agree with by Dusty. No sense going with Javy...give Hanigan the opportunities.

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    Re: Reds vs Rockies 8/23/08

    If I'm Fuentes I'd want that stupid mascot out from behind home plate. So annoying.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Reds vs Rockies 8/23/08

    Jolbert K's in one heck of an AB. 10 pitches.

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    Re: Reds vs Rockies 8/23/08

    Hanigan with a good AB.

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    Re: Reds vs Rockies 8/23/08

    Hannigan works a walk after getting a gift from the ump who ruled a no-catch on an amazing play by Barmes. Let's see #3 Dickerson!
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Reds vs Rockies 8/23/08

    Game over. Lincoln & Masset handed that game to them on a silver platter. Take out those two performances and this was a very well played game by the good guys. At this time of the year, you look for whatever positives you can. :O)

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    Re: Reds vs Rockies 8/23/08

    Code:
    Final       1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  R  H  E  
    Cincinnati  1  0  0  2  0  1  1  1  0  6  10 1 
    Colorado    0  2  1  0  0  0  4  0  X  7  11 1
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                   AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
      
    C. Dickerson      lf 4 2 2 1 1 2 1 .341  
    J. Keppinger      ss 4 0 0 0 1 1 2 .264  
    B. Phillips       2b 4 2 1 0 0 0 1 .268  
    J. Votto          1b 4 1 3 1 0 0 0 .290  
    E. Encarnacion    3b 4 0 1 1 0 0 4 .249  
    J. Bruce          rf 4 1 2 3 0 1 2 .260  
    C. Patterson      cf 4 0 1 0 0 2 3 .194  
    P. Bako            c 3 0 0 0 0 1 3 .211  
    J. Cabrera        ph 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 .320  
    E. Volquez         p 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 .083  
    A. Phillips       ph 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .193  
    M. Lincoln         p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000  
    N. Masset          p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .000  
    R. Hanigan        ph 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 .238
    Scoring Summary
    Top 1st: Cincinnati
    - J. Votto singled to left, C. Dickerson scored, B. Phillips to second


    Bot 2nd: Colorado
    - A. Cook reached on bunt single to catcher, J. Baker to third, I. Stewart to third, J. Baker and I. Stewart scored, A. Cook to second on catcher P. Bako's throwing error


    Bot 3rd: Colorado
    - I. Stewart singled to center, G. Atkins scored


    Top 4th: Cincinnati
    - J. Bruce singled to right, B. Phillips and J. Votto scored


    Top 6th: Cincinnati
    - E. Encarnacion singled to shallow left, B. Phillips scored, J. Votto to second


    Top 7th: Cincinnati
    - C. Dickerson homered to deep right


    Bot 7th: Colorado
    - M. Holliday doubled to deep right, Y. Torrealba, C. Barmes and W. Taveras scored, M. Holliday to third advancing on throw

    - B. Hawpe singled to deep right, M. Holliday scored, B. Hawpe out at second


    Top 8th: Cincinnati
    - J. Bruce homered to deep right

    Batting
    2B - C Dickerson (6, A Cook).

    HR - C Dickerson (2, 7th inning off L Vizcaino 0 on, 1 Out), J Bruce (14, 8th inning off T Buchholz 0 on, 2 Out).

    RBI - J Votto (58), J Bruce 3 (39), E Encarnacion (49), C Dickerson (5).

    2-out RBI - J Bruce.

    Runners left in scoring position, 2 out - P Bako 1.

    GIDP - J Keppinger.

    Team LOB - 4.

    Base Running
    CS - C Patterson (8, 2nd base by A Cook/Y Torrealba).

    Fielding
    E - P Bako (5, throw).

    Outfield assists - J Bruce (B Hawpe at 2nd base).

    DP - 1 (J Keppinger-B Phillips-J Votto).


    Batting
    2B - G Atkins (30, E Volquez); M Holliday (34, N Masset).

    RBI - I Stewart (39), M Holliday 3 (78), B Hawpe (74).

    Runners left in scoring position, 2 out - B Hawpe 1, M Holliday 2.

    GIDP - J Baker.

    Team LOB - 5.

    Base Running
    SB - W Taveras (61, 2nd base off E Volquez/P Bako), C Barmes (9, 2nd base off E Volquez/P Bako).

    Fielding
    E - C Barmes (8, throw).

    DP - 2 (C Barmes, C Barmes-J Baker-G Atkins).

    Pitching
    Code:
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    Cincinnati
    E. Volquez  6.0 6 3 3 3 5 0 2.80  
    M. Lincoln  0.1 3 3 3 0 0 0 4.43   (L, 1-4) 
    N. Masset   1.2 2 1 1 1 1 0 2.19   (BS, 2) 
     
     Colorado 
    A. Cook      5.0 8 4 3 2 1 0 3.91  
    L. Vizcaino  2.0 1 1 1 0 4 1 5.00  (W, 1-0)
    T. Buchholz  1.0 1 1 1 0 1 1 1.67  (H, 20)
    B. Fuentes   1.0 0 0 0 1 2 0 2.84  (S, 25)
    WP - E Volquez.

    Pitches-strikes - E Volquez 103-64; M Lincoln 11-6; N Masset 29-15; A Cook 98-60; L Vizcaino 29-22; T Buchholz 10-8; B Fuentes 23-15.

    Ground balls-fly balls - E Volquez 8-4; M Lincoln 0-1; N Masset 0-3; A Cook 9-3; L Vizcaino 2-0; T Buchholz 0-2; B Fuentes 1-0.

    Batters faced - E Volquez 25; M Lincoln 4; N Masset 7; A Cook 23; L Vizcaino 7; T Buchholz 4; B Fuentes 4.

    Time: 3:12.
    Attendance: 42,282.
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    Re: Reds vs Rockies 8/23/08

    Defense is improved yet the relief still gives up runs in bunches. Hmmm.

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    Re: Reds vs Rockies 8/23/08

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    Volquez finishes with a quality start: 6 IP, 6 H, 3 R, 3 BB, 5 K

    It should have only been one run if not for Paul Bako, so Volquez actually pitched better than his line indicates. I'm still stunned that the those two runs are earned.
    Hit or an error?

    JohnFay

    Edinson Volquez was surprised.

    "Why'd they call that a hit? He had plenty of time."

    Good question. The official scorer initially called Aaron Cook's bunt a base hit. He could not find a replay to overrule the original call. Paul Bako fielded the ball cleanly. There's no question in my mind that a good throw gets Cook.

    It ended up costing Volquez two earned runs. Here's the explanation of the ruling. Runners were on first and second when Cook bunted. Because it was ruled a hit, it would have loaded the bases. Clint Barmes followed with an infield single. That made one run earned and the bases still would have been loaded. Volquez then walked Willy Taveras, so that would have forced another run in. The two earned runs added .12 to Volquez's ERA. Not good for a guy who is in the running for ERA title.

    Volquez wasn't mad -- just puzzled.

    The play was the pivotal one in the game.

    "It was really the difference in the ballgame when it comes down to it," Dusty Baker said.

    The bullpen cost Volquez his 16th win. He wasn't mad about that either.

    "I'm not mad at anybody," he said. "That happens. They're trying to not give up any runs."

    Volquez still has an outside shot at 20 wins.

    "That would be great for me -- and the team," Volquez said.

    http://news.cincinnati.com/apps/pbcs...cincinnati.com

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    Re: Reds vs Rockies 8/23/08

    Quote Originally Posted by Falls City Beer View Post
    Defense is improved yet the relief still gives up runs in bunches. Hmmm.
    Best reliever is on DL....Hmmm. And the infield defense is still pathetic. This bullpen badly misses Jared Burton.

    Mike Lincoln is another one that needs to be gone at the end of the season. He's been terrible lately.
    Last edited by OnBaseMachine; 08-24-2008 at 12:48 PM.


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