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    RH Bat or LH Bat

    Check out the splits last year...

    I consider and .850 OPS the minimum you want in the heart of your order. That being said, this is a list of the over .850 OPS players we had (minus Dunn/Griffey) last season:

    VS. LH
    Phillips - .944
    Encarnacion - .908
    Keppinger - .901
    Votto - .862

    VS. RH
    Votto - .880
    Bruce - .869


    I think we need a LH bat.

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    I Think We Need Manny

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    i think we need better overall hitters

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    Re: RH Bat or LH Bat

    ok if you want a lefty how about ibanez? he has consistently put up 20+ hr/100+ rbi seasons with a ba between .280 and .295. he also did that without a hitters park to call home and he would be alot cheaper than manny, odornez, abreu, beltre....

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    Re: RH Bat or LH Bat

    Quote Originally Posted by redsfandan View Post
    ok if you want a lefty how about ibanez? he has consistently put up 20+ hr/100+ rbi seasons with a ba between .280 and .295. he also did that without a hitters park to call home and he would be alot cheaper than manny, odornez, abreu, beltre....
    I've thought about him.

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    Re: RH Bat or LH Bat

    Quote Originally Posted by kpresidente View Post
    I've thought about him.
    and?

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    Re: RH Bat or LH Bat

    Quote Originally Posted by redsfandan View Post
    and?
    Will he sign a relatively short term contract?

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    well hopefully walt will find out

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    I'd try and sign Ibanez, and sign a RH power bat. Stick both in LF and RF and move Bruce back to CF. We need both.
    Who's on first?

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    Re: RH Bat or LH Bat

    Always thought Ibanez was very underrated. He's a modal of consistancy it seems.
    "The Hall of Fame is there to keep alive the memory of people. You don't need to do that with people like Buck [O'Niel] and Joe [Nuxhall]. Nobody's forgetting those guys."

    - Joe Posnanski

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    yep and he'll be some teams underrated leftfielder next year. now i wouldn't want him long term cuz he's 36 and we have some decent options for left field in the farm system but for 1 or 2 years he could definitely work.

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    Re: RH Bat or LH Bat

    Quote Originally Posted by kpresidente View Post
    Check out the splits last year...

    I consider and .850 OPS the minimum you want in the heart of your order. That being said, this is a list of the over .850 OPS players we had (minus Dunn/Griffey) last season:

    VS. LH
    Phillips - .944
    Encarnacion - .908
    Keppinger - .901
    Votto - .862

    VS. RH
    Votto - .880
    Bruce - .869


    I think we need a LH bat.

    Good stuff.

    I think what Jocketty is looking for next year, is a big bat to hit cleanup in between Votto and Bruce. One option would be to hit EE or Phillips there against lefties, and then get a big leftie who crushes righties. However, that is only good for the starting pitcher, who usually only pitches to the lineup twice maybe three times. This would leave the Reds vulnerable to a lefty when three lefties are in a row, or to a righty against Phillips or EE when they are in the cleanup slot.

    A better option would be to just get a solid, productive bat to hit in between Votto and Bruce all season long, who hits both lefties and righties well. That more often is the case with RH bats. Phillips and EE are rare examples of RH bats who can't hit righties.

    Bring in Ordonez, Holiday, or even a Casey Blake, who hit as well against lefties as righties, and you don't have to switch around the order, but more importantly, you don't have to worry about what pitcher gets brought in in the late innings.

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    Re: RH Bat or LH Bat

    Ordonez

    vs. LH pitchers
    .328 in 137 at-bats

    vs. RH pitchers
    .314 in 424 at-bats
    Who's on first?

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    Re: RH Bat or LH Bat

    Ibanez:
    Breakdown AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
    vs. Left 197 20 60 13 2 7 37 19 3 41 0 0 .305 .371 .497 .868
    vs. Right 438 65 126 30 1 16 73 45 0 69 2 4 .288 .352 .470 .822

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    Re: RH Bat or LH Bat

    Quote Originally Posted by ChatterRed View Post
    Ordonez

    vs. LH pitchers
    .328 in 137 at-bats

    vs. RH pitchers
    .314 in 424 at-bats
    Ibanez:
    Breakdown
    AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB HBP SO SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS
    vs. Left 197 20 60 13 2 7 37 19 3 41 0 0 .305 .371 .497 .868
    vs. Right 438 65 126 30 1 16 73 45 0 69 2 4 .288 .352 .470 .822

    Matt Holiday

    Code:
    Split              BA    OBP   SLG   OPS  BAbip tOPS+ 
    +-+------------+----+----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+----+----+---+----+---+---+---+---+---+----+---+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+-----+------------+
       vs RHP as RH   .325  .386  .565  .950  .360   102
       vs LHP as RH   .297  .386  .506  .892  .330    92
    Any of these guys seem to be good fits.
    Last edited by 757690; 10-08-2008 at 05:46 PM.


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