Del Rosario is going no where if he doesnt get claimed, but that really isnt the main issue.
Del Rosario is going no where if he doesnt get claimed, but that really isnt the main issue.
If he doesn't get claimed, it's the only issue. It means the FO guessed right and picked the guy that they could DFA and still keep.Originally Posted by GIDP
And most team's are having similar crowding issues with their 40 man roster at this point, so there is a good chance he clears.
If Del Rosario isn't claimed, he would become a free agent at the end of the season.
This is not true. That is only true if A) it's a player with 5 years service time (or as was mentioned in this thread, his second outright assignment) and B) they are not re-added to the roster prior to October 15.
Del Rosario has no say in the matter if he's not claimed on waivers. The Reds can assign him and will continue to control his reservation rights.
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
Right. I meant to imply that he won't be added back to the 40-man roster before October 15th.
Astros picked him up for cash.
Little bit of a stretch but for giggles
Reds traded Jeff Keppinger and Del Rosario, and Drew Sutton for 1 inning of Springer, and maybe 15 ABs of Willie Bloomquist.
The cup, it overfloweth.
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It didn't matter if they did or didn't, though. He doesn't have enough service to have the option of becoming a free agent in those circumstances. Of course it now isn't important, but the point is he didn't have to be added back to the roster because he didn't have the option to become a free agent after the year if he wasn't added back. That option only applies to people with more than 3 years service. Had he passed through waivers and such, the Reds could have kept him off the roster next year and reserved him through his minor league contract.
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
The first time you're outrighted to the minors while having less than three years of Major League service time, you receive what's owed to you on your contract and become a free agent at the end of the year. The service time only dictates whether your permission to be outrighted is required or not.
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Last edited by Brutus; 09-16-2010 at 05:23 PM.
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
I did some digging RE: Outright assignments. As it turns out, my initial reply was correct: anyone being assigned outright for their first time, with less than 3 years of service, does not have any say in the matter and cannot become a free agent, PROVIDED that their original minor league contract has not expired.
Minor league contracts typically cover the first seven successful professional seasons. However, in this case, any year spent fully in the Majors does not count against a season of service for their contract. So only partial minor league seasons during which time they're on a Major League roster would count against the seven.
So let's say a player is added to the Major League roster after four (4) years. In season 5 of his minor league contract, he's optioned back and forth. During season 6 of his minor league contract (his second year with a Major League contract), he's assigned outright, with a year of service, because the team wanted to make room on the 40-man roster for someone else. At the end of the season, he does not have to be placed back on the 40-man roster because it's his first outright assignment.
Now let's say the same thing that happened in this season 6 scenario didn't happen until the 7th minor league season. Assuming season 6 was not spent fully at the Major League level, a player would have to be placed back on the 40-man roster at the end of the year or he would be a minor league free agent because his minor league UPC is expiring.
In the case of Del Rosario, the only way he would have been a free agent is if his minor league contract was expiring. Otherwise, the Reds could have retained his rights without putting him back on the 40-man roster.
"No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda
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