Where have you been.That's this years theme.Originally Posted by CrackerJack
Where have you been.That's this years theme.
Theme for the 2011 Reds "Waiting for the walk off"
Every night...same drama.
Baseball is like church. Many attend, few understand
No, they are not. 105 games in the books and they have the 10th best record in the National League. This is just the rare ballclub where Pythag, for whatever reason, isn't infallible. They just are a bad baseball team.
The Cubs earlier this year at GABP.
100% agree. This is team is not good as currently assembled. They find ways to lose; last year's team found ways to win.
I was away, so I couldn't post this earlier. Joey Votto has now tied Chris Sabo for 23rd place on the Reds' all-time home run list.
Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):
Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Adam Dunn - 270
5. Ted Kluszewski - 251
6. George Foster - 244
7. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
8. Eric Davis - 203
9. Barry Larkin - 198
10. Vada Pinson - 186
11. Wally Post - 172
12. Gus Bell - 160
13. Joe Morgan - 152
13. Pete Rose - 152
15. Lee May - 147
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Brandon Phillips - 116
21. Frank McCormick - 110
22. Dave Parker - 107
23. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Joey Votto - 104
25. Dave Concepcion - 101
Eric Stratton, Rush Chairman. Damn glad to meet ya.
Remind me again why we're buying at the deadline?
Well, that's not how Pythag works.
It's not infallable at all and never claims to be. It's more the mean of all of the odds.
It's just a better predictor moving forward than won-loss record. As such, you CANT use won loss record over 105 games to "disprove" Pythag. It's just one of those things. Odds are, it's because the Reds are of reasonably similar quality to the other teams, and have gotten the short end of the stick. It could happen to any one of those teams. No different than flipping a coin over and over. If you do that 105 times, sometimes tails will come up 60 times instead of the expected 52.5.
Last year it was quite the opposite when the Cards and Reds were of overall similar quality and the Reds more or less got the distribition.
You could simulate this season a thousand times, and more times than not, the Reds would likely be with the rest of the pack, with an equal chance of being 5 games up, as opposed to the unfortunate reality of opposite. The Reds really, are getting punished for not being a good enough team to conquer the bulk of the expected odds. A 95 win Pythag team with our luck would still be on course for 90 wins and a likely playoff spot. The Reds are a decent,but not great team, and when that happens, they are sucsecptible to playing Russian Roulette with the rest of the "decent" teams.
Last edited by Patrick Bateman; 07-27-2011 at 12:44 AM.
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-Rdirtypirates (Sep 6, 2023)
Totally disinterested bunch out there last night. I hate it when a team just isn't into it like that. If they hadn't of made that comeback for a quick lead I would have said they have thrown in the towel for the season. They at least showed some life coming back. We all saw why Cairo can't play everyday. Hopefully Dusty took note of that too.
Reds Fan Since 1971
No, Dusty was too busy making excuses. They had a lack of concentration because a member of the "family" was traded.
25-36 since May 18th (-7 run diff).
Not a very good team.
Yea I read that. You are supposed to be professionals and just move on. Trades are part of baseball. You just deal with it. If some of these guys that are appearing to just to be going through the motions don't change, then they may be on the Gomes end of a trade themselves.
Reds Fan Since 1971
A breakdown a night by some unit, last night its the D. The night before its the bullpen. On and on and on.
At what point do we stop hearing "we haven't hit our stride yet?" September? Personally, I think they've hit their stride, and this season they are walking with a gimp.
"Rounding 3rd and heading for home, good night everybody"
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