The Astros have accomplished one thing that I would not have thought to be possible: They have turned me into a Yankee fan, at least when the Yankees play against Houston.
The Astros have accomplished one thing that I would not have thought to be possible: They have turned me into a Yankee fan, at least when the Yankees play against Houston.
"Hey...Dad. Wanna Have A Catch?" Kevin Costner in "Field Of Dreams."
Edd Roush (02-19-2020),goreds2 (02-19-2020),Larkin Fan (02-20-2020),M2 (02-19-2020),Roy Tucker (02-19-2020),The Operator (02-20-2020),Yachtzee (02-19-2020)
I took Manfred's comments to mean that the Astro's trophy in particular is now just a piece of metal, as are those rings. Meaningless. All other trophies have been earned and have meaning.Originally Posted by BernieCarbo
goreds2 (02-19-2020),Ron Madden (02-19-2020),texasdave (02-19-2020)
One of the main reasons Landis got the gig was because he sat on an antitrust lawsuit brought by the Federal League against MLB. And it was mainly NL owners, the White Sox, Yankees and Red Sox who wanted a commissioner. Everyone else was loyal to AL president Ban Johnson who was sort of the de facto commissioner. When the Black Sox scandal became public Johnson basically ignored it and BOS, NY and CHI threatened to move to the NL. Landis and Johnson butted heads for a few years after that until he resigned after the 1927 season. Ironically, Johnson's fall from power came from protesting Landis's decision to grant Ty Cob and Tris Speaker amnesty for allegedly fixing a game in 1919. Lanmdis made the owners choose between him and Johnson and they chose Landis.
cumberlandreds (02-19-2020),M2 (02-19-2020),Roy Tucker (02-19-2020),westofyou (02-19-2020),Yachtzee (02-19-2020)
We still hear about Spygate, but most of these things take a life of their own during the dead period. There isn't a whole lot going on in sport right now and the start of spring training is always a pretty big national deal. I think MLB's bumbling of this situation is bad, but think it will pass once games start. In a couple of weeks you will have March Madness, the start of the MLB season, the NFL draft, the NBA and NHL playoffs, and then into football camps. Once things pick up, this scandal will head to the backburner.
Whoever the Astros are playing, there may be some buzz for that series, maybe at the start, but I don't think this will be an issue for a mid June Astros v Mariners game. No one wants to hear about this story constantly, they broadcast may mention it for the first meetings, but do fans really want to hear about the cheating the entire series long? When there are no games, the off the field stuff starts to dominate the conversation, when the games start, then the off the field stuff takes a back seat. Just as a reference two years ago during the Urban Meyer/Zach Smith thing, it was all everyone talked about in camp. It was brought up each broadcast when Day was the coach, it was brought up for Urban's first game back, but by November, no one talked about it. Sure it still gets mentioned from time to time, but most people have moved on.
As for Manfred, he may be a strong Commissioner, but I would doubt he is acting alone here. The other owners are mad, but I think they are fine with Manfred taking all the heat.
A 3-yr ban from post-season play for the Astros and then the Commissioner steps down. Players get to play and cash their checks, but post-season play is off the table.
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
goreds2 (02-19-2020)
Not at all. Ped users have their trophies. There is no asterisk here. Punish the organization.
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
Pennsylvania Little League district to drop 'Astros'
this is one of the dumbest stories I have seen....some people should not even be given the smallest amount of authority.
Kingspoint (02-20-2020)
Why?
A Little League in California did the same thing. It is dumb but it reinforces the shaming of the Astros which is a good thing.
Maybe I’m just preoccupied with other stuff, but is there something wrong with me that I still can’t manage to care about this all that much?
mth123 (02-20-2020)
John Tomase
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David Ortiz not happy w/Mike Fiers. "Oh, after you make your money, after you get your ring, you decide to talk about it? Why didn't you talk about it during the season when it was going on? Why didn't you say, 'I don't want to be no part of it?' So you're looking like a snitch."
^ I love when people pretend to have a principle ("you should have said something while it happened!") to support the argument opposing that principle ("you should never talk about it, snitch!").
Yeah I get the clubhouse/team/brotherhood mentality to it but lets be honest, what player in their right mind is going to rat their own team out? That's moronic. Why would anyone want to create a hostile work environment for themselves? He would've been treated like a leper in that clubhouse.
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My first team was the "Senators"
Yes I am that old
My first team was the "Redlegs" (not the "Reds").
I wore #49.
Eric Stratton, Rush Chairman. Damn glad to meet ya.
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