Chip R (07-19-2021),Powder River (07-19-2021)
Last edited by Kc61; 07-19-2021 at 11:54 AM.
BillDoran (07-19-2021)
Nobody is getting overly excited about a two week performance in AAA. People are overly pessimistic about Farmer, as they should be.
If he needs to go back to AAA again, he's probably never going to be useful.
Now is the time!
Barrero may come up here and hit .150, so be it.
Old school 1983 (07-19-2021)
BillDoran (07-19-2021),cumberlandreds (07-19-2021),Old school 1983 (07-19-2021),Powder River (07-19-2021),Redeyecat (07-22-2021),TRF (07-19-2021)
Farmer's value is in the fact that he can play C. That gives Bell the flexibility to use Stephenson as a PH
Even with a new face in the GM seat, the Reds are still one of the more conservative orgs. with its top prospects, esp. hitters. Time to see if they can catch lightning in a bottle instead of running a 31 year old career backup out there every day and calling it "development." Call Berroa back up.
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RedTeamGo! (07-19-2021)
Rumor is Edgar Garcia is going to be called up to take Lorenzen's spot. So looks like it won't be Barrero.
This.
I would expect more and similar circumspection from a board full of posters who just four months ago were willing to trade India for a bag of magic beans. The organization has a considerable amount of knowledge about prospects that they do not share with us. And few on the board would accept a 70 PA sample size as sufficient in any other context.
The Reds don't appear to be playing service time games. That means that they see something for Barrero to work on - maybe day-in, day out consistency; maybe an exploitable hole in his swing; maybe plate approach; maybe seeing experienced pitchers multiple times. Look at the top prospects (Kelencic, Franco, Brujan, Madrigal) - several much more highly regarded than Barrero - who have littered their struggles around MLB this year. If the Reds want to be sure Barrero is good and fully ready, that seems entirely reasonable.
Kc61 (07-19-2021),Powder River (07-19-2021),Redeyecat (07-22-2021)
I'm not getting what you think they'd be skimping on. However, I don't think there's a scenario where he goes back. When he gets called up, he becomes the everyday SS for the rest of this season and he'll be the SS next season too. A matter of weeks in AAA isn't going to make any real difference in whether he makes the job his during a long-term trial.
The upside is it's extremely rare to be putting up a .300/.382/.498 line in the upper minors (especially in the circuits where he's playing) and not at least be semi-functional in the majors. As we've both mentioned, I don't think the timing of his callup has much, if anything, to do with his development. The Reds are just doing air traffic control with their roster. Jose Barrero is going to be the Reds' shortstop. It has become inevitable.
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Mitri (07-19-2021),Old school 1983 (07-19-2021),Redeyecat (07-22-2021),Ron Madden (07-19-2021)
Jose was sent to AAA for a reason. It wasn’t an accident. The Reds likely wanted him to face more sophisticated minor league pitching. And show he can handle that pitching level.
He’s played 16 games at AAA. He was so-so for the first 12. He did much better over the last four. Four games is a small sample. It’s a step, but doesn’t show readiness. It certainly doesn’t show consistency.
If things continue to go well, he’ll be called up. But he may not show it yet. Reds will want to find that out - for a reasonable period (not too long) under the circumstances.
There is a tension between competing this year and preparing for the future. Each decision is difficult. On this, I trust the Reds’ coaches and development people, whatever they decide.
Last edited by Kc61; 07-19-2021 at 01:39 PM.
Powder River (07-19-2021)
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