Phil Castellini surprised that Opening Day tickets still unsold

[Redsfan6272]

I’lll say it again - the Reds will win 88 games!


But maybe not this season

Ownership setting sites on 2032!!

[Ron Madden]

Michael W.
@mweinst594

@johnfayman
how much ownership stake does the Williams family have in the Reds? The Reds need to get Dick Williams back. The Reds PR was so much better with him in a prominent role.

John Fay
@johnfayman

Castellinis have controlling interest. “Investors” have zero say in running the team.

[Redsfan6272]

Probably why Dick Williams left. They told them the plan to trade certain players away to save money and he walked away. Why come back for this mess?

[Big Red Smokey]

[Bob Sheed]

Phil would already be fired.

Ahh but the last name...

[Roy Tucker]

This team isn't quite as bad as the 1982 team. But with the right people getting injured they could be there.

I had season tickets to that season and they really did suck. Could not score runs. The pitching wasn’t half bad and Mario Soto was totally wasted on that team. Pastore and Berenyi weren’t awful.

We drank a lot of cheap Hudepohl. A *lot*.

[Falls City Beer]

I had season tickets to that season and they really did suck. Could not score runs. The pitching wasn’t half bad and Mario Soto was totally wasted on that team. Pastore and Berenyi weren’t awful.

We drank a lot of cheap Hudepohl. A *lot*.

The 82 team was better than this assemblage of nonsense. It’s just that there was no parity back then and the 82 bunch was really snakebit. Fluky bad.

This is just an unholy mess amidst terrific parity.

[westofyou]

The 82 team was better than this assemblage of nonsense. It’s just that there was no parity back then and the 82 bunch was really snakebit. Fluky bad.

This is just an unholy mess amidst terrific parity.

Actually no

Do your homework and report back please

https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CIN/1982.shtml

[M2]

Actually no

Do your homework and report back please

https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CIN/1982.shtml

The '82 team had almost no future value. Soto was great. Gary Redus, Charlie Leibrandt and Greg Harris were the only guys who went on to do anything, and Leibrandt and Harris got jettisoned.

[westofyou]

The '82 team had almost no future value. Soto was great. Gary Redus, Charlie Leibrandt and Greg Harris were the only guys who went on to do anything, and Leibrandt and Harris got jettisoned.

The talent of players under the age of thirty never created the value that the Reds currently can claim for players under thirty

[REDREAD]

The '82 team had almost no future value. Soto was great. Gary Redus, Charlie Leibrandt and Greg Harris were the only guys who went on to do anything, and Leibrandt and Harris got jettisoned.

I'm not disagreeing with your main point.
But Joe Price had a pretty decent (But mediocre) career, he pitched until 1990.

Most rebuild teams look a lot worse in hindsight.
A classic example is the optimism we had in all the young pitching after Leake was traded.
IIRC, Mahle was the only one that amounted to anything. I guess we could be generous and maybe count Garrett too.
In hindsight, that "young core" looks awful too.. Not quite as bad as Duane Walker and company , of course.

[M2]

I'm not disagreeing with your main point.
But Joe Price had a pretty decent (But mediocre) career, he pitched until 1990.

Most rebuild teams look a lot worse in hindsight.
A classic example is the optimism we had in all the young pitching after Leake was traded.
IIRC, Mahle was the only one that amounted to anything. I guess we could be generous and maybe count Garrett too.
In hindsight, that "young core" looks awful too.. Not quite as bad as Duane Walker and company , of course.

I was on the fence on mentioning Price. He was all right. Looks like a Hall-of-Famer compared to most of that team.

And no doubt rebuilds can be brutal.

[UKWhoDey]

I hate the lib woke mob and cancel culture as much as anyone, but right about now might be the perfect time foe them to actually do some good in this country and go after Phil

[Big Red Smokey]

Another enjoyable experience tonight. Where are you gonna go indeed

[Falls City Beer]

Actually no

Do your homework and report back please

https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CIN/1982.shtml

I guess. The sport is utterly different now. This team would win the Central outright with the 82 pitching staff. There won’t be a starter with anywhere near Soto’s innings on this team, and potentially not even Berenyi’s. Parity is a hall of mirrors that makes teams like the Reds look far better than they are. The bottom fell out of this team last August/September because they were a puff pastry. It’s just a terrible organization with no design, no emphasis. Just a hodgepodge.