Reds Trade And Free Agent Rumours 2023-24 Offseason Part III

[LiferJim]

I’ve read Manoah had injection(s) to try and alleviate swelling/soreness in his pitching arm/shoulder. There are several articles on the internet saying that.

Just what we need, another guy with injury problems


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[BCubb2003]

Just what we need, another guy with injury problems


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Maybe if we get enough guys, the injuries will stagger themselves.

[Mitri]

Manoah is an enormous (literally and figuratively) question mark. No thanks, Reds have a handful of those already.

[HokieRed]

After its recent acquisitions Kansas City lists 8 starting pitchers, and they have one bullpen guy Zerpa who may also be in the rotation. India would improve them significantly at either third or second and Stephenson would enable them to get Salvador Perez out from behind the plate. Or Fraley or Benson would provide them an upgrade in the outfield. Brady Singer and M.J. Melendez for India and the Royals' choice of Stephenson, Benson, or Fraley. Singer in 2022 was extremely good and even in his much worse year in 2023 he was reasonably good through five innings and vastly better when being caught by somebody other than Perez. He's certainly not a "sure thing" like some here seem to want but there are really very few of those in MLB, and frankly the two main names bandied about here--Cease and Bieber--are far from sure things as well. I'd much rather take a chance on Singer in a deal involving no prospects than send off a load of prospects to the WS or Guardians.

[RedTeamGo!]

Manoah is an enormous (literally and figuratively) question mark. No thanks, Reds have a handful of those already.

What about as a reliever? He’s got some nasty stuff. I had this thought while pooping earlier.

[Old school 1983]

I’ve read Manoah had injection(s) to try and alleviate swelling/soreness in his pitching arm/shoulder. There are several articles on the internet saying that.

Being damaged goods is a completely different story than having some sort of pitch clock related drop off.

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I’ve read Manoah had injection(s) to try and alleviate swelling/soreness in his pitching arm/shoulder. There are several articles on the internet saying that.

Post a few.

[westofyou]

What about as a reliever? He’s got some nasty stuff. I had this thought while pooping earlier.

[LeatherPants]

Being damaged goods is a completely different story than having some sort of pitch clock related drop off.

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Post a few.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/a...23-season/amp/

https://www.foxsports.com/mlb/alek-manoah-player
https://www.si.com/fannation/mlb/fas...into-offseason

[JCM11]

Reds need to swoop in and sign another good BP arm while everyone is fixated on pitchers who've never pitched an inning in MLB before. Take advantage of someone wanting to sign before Christmas or the end of the year. There's plenty of guys still on the board that would be nice upgrades. Even if they don't land that front line SP they could still shorten games by adding to the pen. Most SP are only going 5 innings these days anyway so strengthen that pen.

[WrongVerb]

Reds need to swoop in and sign another good BP arm while everyone is fixated on pitchers who've never pitched an inning in MLB before. Take advantage of someone wanting to sign before Christmas or the end of the year. There's plenty of guys still on the board that would be nice upgrades. Even if they don't land that front line SP they could still shorten games by adding to the pen. Most SP are only going 5 innings these days anyway so strengthen that pen.

I almost wonder if adding another shut-down bullpen guy (Hicks?) would be better than adding a starter. If the rotation does prove to be a weakness, then the Reds could make a deadline deal for someone who may not be available right now.

[JCM11]

I almost wonder if adding another shut-down bullpen guy (Hicks?) would be better than adding a starter. If the rotation does prove to be a weakness, then the Reds could make a deadline deal for someone who may not be available right now.

I don't think it's the worst plan in the world. Greene and Lodolo are likely to be on innings limits anyway plus Martinez gives them an option to save the pen with long relief outings. They could turn the pen into a weapon by adding one more really good arm. I wouldn't mind a lefty like Matt Moore to take Young's spot or they could go with a late inning righty like Neris or David Robertson. Grab a RP now and it makes waiting for the SP FA and trade market to cool down easier.

[Krusty]

Would you do this deal if you’re the Reds? If so, then would you sign a Michael Taylor or Randall Grichuk to give them that right hand bat to replace Steer?

Reds

NAME POSITION SURPLUS
Bryan Woo SP 28.2
Total Value:
28.20

Mariners

NAME POSITION SURPLUS
Spencer Steer 3B 29.7

[JCM11]

If Steer gets dealt for SP then India becomes his "replacement" IMO. Taylor in CF and Friedl in LF would give a boost to the defense though. It's a tough call as I really like Woo, but we don't have much data on him to be a sure thing going forward. I would have to say no to a 1 for 1, but maybe Seattle could add something to make it a yes.

[mth123]

Would you do this deal if you’re the Reds? If so, then would you sign a Michael Taylor or Randall Grichuk to give them that right hand bat to replace Steer?

Reds

NAME POSITION SURPLUS
Bryan Woo SP 28.2
Total Value:
28.20

Mariners

NAME POSITION SURPLUS
Spencer Steer 3B 29.7

No. Woo is another promising young starter similar to what the Reds already have. The Reds need a proven veteran. If I'm trading Steer, I'd want to add more and aim for Cease, Burnes, Luzardo or Valdez.

[Krusty]

No. Woo is another promising young starter similar to what the Reds already have. The Reds need a proven veteran. If I'm trading Steer, I'd want to add more and aim for Cease, Burnes, Luzardo or Valdez.

But you would have more years of control with Woo and the cost will be less in regards to prospects.