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Cooper (06-24-2019)
Coopdaddy67 (06-24-2019),Ron Madden (06-25-2019)
Okay, take away the IBB #s. 88% of the time, Votto had to earn a BB.
Pitchers went in to an AB expanding the zone, hoping Votto would get himself out or at least give them a favorable count by swinging at balls. When Votto refused to give in, he'd take his base. A lot of guys in baseball are unable to do that, which is why they'll never be as good as Votto has been over his career.
Ron Madden (06-25-2019)
What would you say.....ya do here?
Always Red (06-24-2019),alwaysawarrior (06-24-2019),mth123 (06-25-2019),Number_Fourteen (06-24-2019),OhioRiverBarge (06-24-2019),Old school 1983 (06-24-2019),Powder River (06-25-2019),RiverfrontRed (06-24-2019),texasdave (06-24-2019)
I'd say he's a lock for HOF. He has an MVP, multiple all-star selections, and out-of-this-world sabermetrics. The season he lost out on the MVP to Stanton was simply amazing. And...oh yea...Harold Baines.
I think a much closer comp than Perez would be Larkin. In the end, Votto will compare very favorably to Larkin in many career numbers, especially hits.
Hoosier Red (07-01-2019)
That Berkman/Votto numbers aren’t great for Votto
I think he pretty easily gets into THE HOF. There is clear separation between himself and Miggy compared to the rest of the position group between 2007-2019.
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