I still think we'll end up with Cueto next year as the Giants dump salary.
I still think we'll end up with Cueto next year as the Giants dump salary.
Where we gonna go?
Yeah I think there’s something to be said for setting new expectations, because if you put aside the prior history and look solely at performance Finnegan was an obvious cut candidate. Like, at least BobSteve could still get outs in Triple A when he was there, something Finnegan couldn’t say.
“I don’t care,” Votto said of passing his friend and former teammate. “He’s in the past. Bye-bye, Jay.”
OGB (03-28-2019)
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When weighing the results of that trade, don't forget that Cueto was very poor the rest of the regular season for KC (although he did well in the ALDS and WS I think).
Revering4Blue (03-29-2019),Ron Madden (03-29-2019)
The KC package, including Finnegan, was good. But Reds should have traded Cueto in the 2014 off-season after his 243 inning, Cy Young runner up, 20-win, healthy, magnificent season.
Cueto was retained deep into 2015, perhaps because of the All Star Game in Cincy, He had some elbow concerns that season which couldn’t have helped his trade value. The package received from KC was good, but Cueto should have brought a great return.
Reds knew Cueto was leaving, he was an impending FA, they were heading toward a rebuild. Finnegan was a good young pitcher but - many thought ultimately a reliever, and eventually injuries hurt him.
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Reds rebuild failed because of Stephenson and Finnegan, three years ago the Reds anticipated them making up 40% of the 2019 Reds rotation.
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That's perfectly fine criticism, but the post at hand suggested the mistake was in trading Cueto at all. That's supposed to be a better plan than getting back a top 100 prospect like Finnegan and a guy who became a top 100 prospect like Reed?
Unlike the Chapman trade where the talent in return was substandard, I actually don't think the problem in the Cueto trade was the talent itself but rather the development of the talent.
“I don’t care,” Votto said of passing his friend and former teammate. “He’s in the past. Bye-bye, Jay.”
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What happened to Finnegan (other than the injury and a prolonged bout of pout)?
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