Ranking the 25 worst ever Hall-of-Fame selections

[TOG]

Curt Schilling should be in the HOF

[marcshoe]

I thought Lefty Gomez would be on the list. He scattered a few good seasons into a mediocre career and was rewarded for it thirty years later. I'm not going to go cliche and mention the team he played for, so I'll quit typing now.

[Kingspoint]

I always felt if Sutter was in, then Dan Quisenberry should be in as well.

Though valid, I always hate that argument (instead of agreeing that Sutter should not have been in. Every time someone undeserved goes in, it lowers the bar.

[RedlegJake]

Though valid, I always hate that argument (instead of agreeing that Sutter should not have been in. Every time someone undeserved goes in, it lowers the bar.

I agree. Case in point Ross Youngs vs Curt Walker. Walker has a statistical dead heat in numbers but he played for the Reds while Youngs played for McGraw's Giants and he had a tragically young death. I don't think either is HoFer quality but using this old argument Walker deserves to be in if Youngs is in.

[westofyou]

I agree. Case in point Ross Youngs vs Curt Walker. Walker has a statistical dead heat in numbers but he played for the Reds while Youngs played for McGraw's Giants and he had a tragically young death. I don't think either is HoFer quality but using this old argument Walker deserves to be in if Youngs is in.

This guy is responsible for a lot of chafe in the HOF

[RedlegJake]

Frisch campaigned for several Giants including the article's mentioned Freddie Lindstrom as well as Youngs and Travis Jackson

[foster15]

He created havoc for the Cardinals, his contributions in their pennant winning years really were big, he played it out on some teams that didn't measure up and it looked like he was chasing numbers, perhaps he was. Vada Pinson had 305 steals, Brock was CAUGHT stealing 307 times

Lou Brock was the star position player for the most dominant NL team during the Cards great 60s seasons. Look at the rest of the starting eight and you'll realize it. Just about every team had an Orlando Cepeda, Flood was good but didn't produce the runs that Brock did. McCarver was decent but he wasn't Johnny Bench. Javier, Maxwell, Shannon and Maris were all supporting players. I remember watching the 1968 World Series, first one I ever watched, and when the Tigers inning was over and Brock was due up, they would adnauseum say "And The Man will be due up next".

He was a shoe in for the HOF and there should be no argument whatsoever as to whether he belongs. PERIOD.

[marcshoe]

I had a pair of Lou Brock Converses when I was young. I was so slow he came to my house personally and demanded I burn them.

[Bruce Berenyi]

Bill Mazeroski, a glorified JUlian Javier

[RedsFanInMS]

Though valid, I always hate that argument (instead of agreeing that Sutter should not have been in. Every time someone undeserved goes in, it lowers the bar.

This. Both the Baseball HOF and Pro Football HOF have become Hall's of Very Good instead of Hall of Fame's.

[PuffyPig]

It's a testament to just how good MLB catchers are when even Rickey Henderson was thrown out on 19% of his steal attempts (the year he stole 130 it was 24% of the time).

Advanced stats would tell you that when he stole 130 bases and got throw out 24% of he time, he would have been pretty much better off staying on the base.

[CySeymour]

Though valid, I always hate that argument (instead of agreeing that Sutter should not have been in. Every time someone undeserved goes in, it lowers the bar.

I agree, and honestly I'm not suggesting Quiz should be in, nor did I really think Sutter should have been.

[Phoenix2]

HOF is now irrelevant. It used to be fun to debate, but why bother now? Harold Baines is a HOFer and Pete Rose is not. So really, what's the point of it?

[757690]

Advanced stats would tell you that when he stole 130 bases and got throw out 24% of he time, he would have been pretty much better off staying on the base.

The chart in this article says otherwise. His rate was 76%. Around 70% is the break even point.

https://batflipsandnerds.com/2018/11...e-stolen-base/

[westofyou]

HOF is now irrelevant. It used to be fun to debate, but why bother now? Harold Baines is a HOFer and Pete Rose is not. So really, what's the point of it?

If that's your take then Candy Cummings should have already broken your spirit, I guess the point is it's a museum that is meant to celebrate and stimulate one's mind. As for Pete, lots of his stuff is in there, he's just not