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    Re: reds vs Rockies 8/24/08

    Ballgame. Walk off HR by Quintanilla.


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    Re: reds vs Rockies 8/24/08

    That was only the 2nd home run of his career.

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    Re: reds vs Rockies 8/24/08

    You gotta feel bad for Lincoln. He obviously needed a day off...his performance proves it.

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    Re: reds vs Rockies 8/24/08

    Quote Originally Posted by _Sir_Charles_ View Post
    Ballgame. Walk off HR by Quintanilla.
    Mercy killing IMO. The Reds needed no more innings heaped on its staff.
    All my posts are my opinion - just like yours are. If I forget to state it and you're too dense to see the obvious, look here!

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    Re: reds vs Rockies 8/24/08

    That was quick. Reds get 5 hits in 12 innings, commit 5 errors, and walk 9 Rockies. They didn't deserve to win.

    And to think I sat here and watched it. It's a sure sign of insanity.

    And to those who say this is what you get with kids, let me remind you that Phillips, Encarnacion, Patterson, Bako, and others are not kids. I'm not worried about the kids. I worried about some of the veterans these days. First pitch hitting from some is a bad example for the youngsters and it most always results in disaster when it's done in every at bat. And the fielding. Words to not describe why this team cannot catch a ball on a play. None.
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    Re: reds vs Rockies 8/24/08

    Poor execution and bad fundamental play dooms the Reds today, how many times have we seen that this year?

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    SB - C Patterson (13, 2nd base off T Buchholz/C Iannetta).

    CS - C Patterson (9, 2nd base by U Jimenez), J Bruce (5, 2nd base by T Buchholz/C Iannetta).
    Fielding
    E - J Votto (11, ground ball); J Bruce 2 (7, fly ball, throw); E Encarnacion (20, throw); B Phillips (6, catch).

    PB - P Bako.

    DP - 1 (J Cabrera-B Phillips-J Votto).

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    Re: reds vs Rockies 8/24/08

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    That was quick. Reds get 5 hits in 12 innings, commit 5 errors, and walk 9 Rockies. They didn't deserve to win.

    And to think I sat here and watched it. It's a sure sign of insanity.

    And to those who say this is what you get with kids, let me remind you that Phillips, Encarnacion, Patterson, Bako, and others are not kids. I'm not worried about the kids. I worried about some of the veterans these days. First pitch hitting from some is a bad example for the youngsters and it most always results in disaster when it's done in every at bat. And the fielding. Words to not describe why this team cannot catch a ball on a play. None.
    Neither is Cabrera

    Plus 14 K's by Reds batters

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    Re: reds vs Rockies 8/24/08

    Dusty was out of pitchers, but Lincoln is really getting hit hard. He's only pitched 9 innings ince August 3rd, and yet he needs rest. His numbers over the last ten appearances are horrible:

    IP - 9
    H -11
    R - 9
    ER -9
    BB -3
    SO -5
    ERA - 9.00

    Since August 19th--a total of 4 appearances:

    IP - 2.2
    H - 7
    R - 8
    ER - 8
    BB - 1
    SO - 1
    ERA - 32.72

    Doubt it's fatigue.
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    Re: reds vs Rockies 8/24/08

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRedsFan View Post
    Dusty was out of pitchers, but Lincoln is really getting hit hard. He's only pitched 9 innings ince August 3rd, and yet he needs rest. His numbers over the last ten appearances are horrible:

    IP - 9
    H -11
    R - 9
    ER -9
    BB -3
    SO -5
    ERA - 9.00

    Since August 19th--a total of 4 appearances:

    IP - 2.2
    H - 7
    R - 8
    ER - 8
    BB - 1
    SO - 1
    ERA - 32.72

    Doubt it's fatigue.
    Is he the one that had all the past arm trouble and this was his first year back?

    I think that they need some fresh arms, they are playing for nothing at this point with such a bad season.

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    Re: reds vs Rockies 8/24/08

    Quote Originally Posted by Spring~Fields View Post
    Is he the one that had all the past arm trouble and this was his first year back?

    I think that they need some fresh arms, they are playing for nothing at this point with such a bad season.
    Yes. Lincoln was out for three years.

    However, in terms of 'fresh arms', where are ya' gonna' get 'em? Everyone says things like 'bring up so-and-so from L'ville. But, in reality, the guys down there have been throwing since Feb. and in real ballgames since April. Their arms aren't any fresher that the arms on the Reds. (famous shrug) There just isn't a lot of help available.

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    Re: reds vs Rockies 8/24/08

    The atrocity at Coors Field

    By Hal McCoy | Sunday, August 24, 2008, 08:52 PM
    What do you think?

    Losing the worst-played major-league baseball game in this millennium was bad enough, but the Cincinnati Reds lost more than that — pending a medical work-up today of pitcher Johnny Cueto.

    The Reds lost an almost indescribable game to the Colorado Rockies, 4-3, in 12 innings, but the real news happened about 3 1/2 hours before Rockies utility infielder Omar Quintanilla hit a walk-off home run against Mike Lincoln.

    That’s when Cueto walked into the dugout after the third inning and said his elbow hurt. He was immediately removed.

    Some thought equal parts of thin air and thin defense put quick closure on Cueto’s start in Coors Field Sunday afternoon.

    Unfortunately for the Reds, it was something more sinister that knocked him out — soreness in his triceps tendon.

    Cueto, making his 27th start, returned to Cincinnati on owner Bob Castellini’s private jet for a full evaluation today, but early indications are that the 22-year-old rookie may be shut down for the season.

    The 22-year-old Dominican didn’t give up a hit in his three innings, but he was forced to throw 74 pitches because his teammates made three errors in the first two innings and he walked three.

    “He came in between innings and said he was developing some stiffness and soreness in the back of his elbow,” said trainer Mark Mann. “That’s right where the triceps tendon comes into the elbow. Johnny being as young as he is, at this point of the season, logging as many innings as he has (155), we want to err on the side of caution, take no chances.”

    And there was another perplexing situation in the ninth inning with the Reds leading, 3-2. It was closer time, Francisco Cordero time.

    Instead, David Weathers walked to the mound and gave up an unearned run that tied the game as the Reds made two errors. Weathers committed a balk to put the tying run at second, plus he gave up a walk and two hits.

    “Cordero had to leave and go home due to a personal matter,” said manager Dusty Baker. “We hope he’ll be back with us in Houston.”

    As far as the game goes, it was the Reds falling out of an ugly tree and hitting every branch on the way to the ground.

    They made as many errors (five) as they had hits (five), they struck out 14 times. They walked nine Rockies, threw two wild pitches, committed a balk, perpetrated a passed ball and Corey Patterson made his daily baserunning blunder by getting picked off base.

    The videotape is going to Cooperstown as one of the five worst professional baseball games ever played.

    Colorado stranded 18 and was 0 for 16 with runners in scoring position. Sound familiar? One difference. The Rockies won.

    The game details are right out of a Dean Koontz novel. Scary.

    Colorado took a 1-0 lead in the first when the Reds made two errors. First baseman Joey Votto kicked a ground ball, then Cueto walked two to fill the bases. Garrett Atkins blooped one down the right field line and right field Jay Bruce ran a long, long way. But he didn’t need to dive and the ball skidded off his glove for an error a run.

    The Reds tied it in the second on Votto’s double and a single by Edwin Encarnacion.

    Cueto left after three, replaced by Nick Massek, who pitched two scoreless innings while the Reds took a 3-1 lead, scoring one in the fifth on Paul Bako’s sacrifice fly and one in the sixth on Chris Dickerson’s third home run.

    The Rockies pulled to within 3-2 in the seventh when Matt Holliday led with a single off Jeremy Affeldt, then stole second and third and scored on a wild pitch.

    Then came Weathers in the ninth and Holliday reached on second baseman Brandon Phillips error on a ball that ticked off Weathers’ glove. Weathers was called for a balk, moving Holliday to second.

    He scored on a single by Atkins on which Bruce was given an error on his throw home.

    Meanwhile, the Reds didn’t score from the sixth inning on and managed only one hit, Encarnacion’s two-out single in the 11th.

    “We gave ‘em the first three runs on errors and didn’t get a hit after the sixth inning,” said Baker. “Doing that and making five errors (season’s high) makes it awfully hard to win a game.

    “We just can’t get the big hit with runners on base, especially with two outs,” he said. “It has been haunting us all year and we are just not a very good team at that part of the game.”

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    Re: reds vs Rockies 8/24/08

    Quote Originally Posted by OnBaseMachine View Post
    As far as the game goes, it was the Reds falling out of an ugly tree and hitting every branch on the way to the ground.

    They made as many errors (five) as they had hits (five), they struck out 14 times. They walked nine Rockies, threw two wild pitches, committed a balk, perpetrated a passed ball and Corey Patterson made his daily baserunning blunder by getting picked off base.

    The videotape is going to Cooperstown as one of the five worst professional baseball games ever played.

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    Re: reds vs Rockies 8/24/08

    Apparently two OF's (old farts) like Hal and I feel the same way. The Reds lately do not hit, field or pitch well and make mistakes on what should be simple everyday plays. I was upset that so many of the 5 errors were forced and seemingly a lack of concentration. The error and the hit that should have been an error on Phillips were simply indescribable.

    You cannot blame all of this on the kids. Bruce seems to be trying to do too much (as well as being so impatient at the plate that he's swinging at anything--can't anyone on this coaching staff stop this?), Votto seems to have lapses in judgment, but overall is the star of the rookie class, Dickerson is a surprise and all will improve. But there is no excuse for Phillips, Edwin, Bako, and Patterson making the minor league mistakes they are making. It's pretty obvious the veterans are phoning it in right now. That's not a very good example for the kids and might point to where the real problem was with this club all along.

    And to think a lot of folks thought it was Dunn and Griffey. Imagine that.
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