So it appears that the response from the club depends on which fan is drawing the profane reaction.Originally Posted by WVRed
So it appears that the response from the club depends on which fan is drawing the profane reaction.
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+1.
What did Brantley say?
Ohhh he'll approve a trade.... to ONE team and they don't want him. So, it's not going to happen.
Cedric 3/24/08It's absolutely pathetic that people can't have an opinion from actually watching games and supplementing that with stats. If you voice an opinion that doesn't fit into a black/white box you will get completely misrepresented and basically called a tobacco chewing traditionalist...
Again. Why only one team? Is he so happy here that he can't stand it? Doesn't look like it.
All my posts are my opinion - just like yours are. If I forget to state it and you're too dense to see the obvious, look here!
After a nice play by the Rockies leftfielder to end the top of the second:
"That's how you catch a ball."
In the bottom of the second, after the second time a ball dropped in front of Griffey:
"That is absolutely beyond anything I've ever seen in my life."
Noting the ball dropped within 20 feet of Griffey: "The fans are booing and they should boo louder than what they did. That's embarrassing."
After Jay Bruce's fine play:
"After watching the ball drop for the second time in front of Griffey, the right-hander Bailey deserved a little bit of luck and he got some there.'
Last edited by BCubb2003; 07-27-2008 at 11:26 AM.
I guess Brantley must be the only relief pitcher who never made a bad pitch or blew a save. Why isn't he in the HOF?
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I've never seen Junior dog it in the field. Trot to first on grounders, yeah. But not in the field.
He's just not fast anymore. At all. His first step is gone. He's not Junior anymore. He's an aging superstar slowed by time and years of injuries. And in spite of his years of experience in centerfield, he's playing a relatively new position and getting angles he didn't see before.
Did he misjudge the balls or was it lack of effort?
The kind of stuff Brantley spewed should be reserved for lack of effort.
When you're dead, you don't know you're dead. The pain is felt by others. The same thing happens when you're stupid.
I don't think he dogs it in the field. However, I think his shrinking range has made him very conservative on the ones he takes "all out" chances on because in the back of his mind he's got to doubt whether he can get to a great many balls (and a single is better than a misplayed triple).
I hate watching Jr these days. I long for the days of "the kid".....
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
I think he is smart enough to know that he can not handle the stress of a large market team. (i.e Yankees, Cubs, White Sox, Dodgers) He knows his skills are diminished and the embarrassment coupled with high expectations in a large market are too much to chance. The only team he is interested in going to is Tampa Bay and they both do not need or want him. He may be able to hide in TB even if they are still in the hunt.
Cedric 3/24/08It's absolutely pathetic that people can't have an opinion from actually watching games and supplementing that with stats. If you voice an opinion that doesn't fit into a black/white box you will get completely misrepresented and basically called a tobacco chewing traditionalist...
Thanks for the 411 BCubb, much appreciated.
I always respect your insight on this board, but I have to say you are way off base on this one. Griffey is motivated these days by one thing and that is his family. Every move he makes is designed with his wife and kids in mind. The large market clubs may be a place he doesn't want his wife and kids exposed to. I for one enjoy living in a smaller community without all the hassle the big city has to offer. Griffey has had plenty of stress in his life I am sure the stress of large market media and fans pales in comparison to some of the things he has had to deal with publicly and privately.
In response to some of the negative comments by fans and posters, when JR leaves after this year people will be critical of other players with the Reds for not doing more with the community behind the scenes. The guy has been in a no win situation since he got here. I don't expect much to change after he leaves. Fans love a scapegoat, who's next on the list.
If you have a losing record at Reds games, please stop going.
I think the notion that Jr has aged into a weakness of the roster can be entertained without approaching scapegoat territory.
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
Nobody was more excited than me in February of 2000....I was talking smack to my dormmates, who happened to be Indians fans, about how the Reds had just returned themselves to glory......well, sadly it hasn't worked out....AT ALL....it's been a pretty bitter reunion....both parties need to move on without each other. Having the priveledge of watching one of the greatest players in baseball history wear Red is something I will always cherish, though....even if it wasn't his greatest years. I've also been lucky enough to be part of history, although a very small part....I captured the radio calls of HR's 500 and 600, and countless in between. Running the Reds Radio Network full time for 4 and a half years allowed tthat to happen, and I'm thankful for that....it was a great opportunity for a 23 year old kid to get
Last edited by Matt700wlw; 07-27-2008 at 12:56 PM.
When teams lose the blame is going to go somewhere. In the land of Cincinnati baseball that blame is often passed around to Jr or Dunn. I often listen to some of the blame being tossed out their I call them "if responses". If only we hadn't traded for JR, If only we hadn't paid Jr. so much money, If only Jr were younger, If Jr would have gotten to that ball, If Jr.wouldn't be so sensitive, we would be winning more games. Sounds like scapegoating to me. When Jr. and Dunn leave town the spotlight will catch a new face, and fans can blame someone else for the inept performance of this team. Bruce better be ready for the pent up frustration 9 seasons of losing has brought.
If you have a losing record at Reds games, please stop going.
I wasn't arguing that Cincy fans don't feed on their own at times. I'm just suggesting that it's possible to legitimately critique a player without him being a scapegoat (i.e. Jr has been part of the problem over the last few seasons).
"This isn’t stats vs scouts - this is stats and scouts working together, building an organization that blends the best of both worlds. This is the blueprint for how a baseball organization should be run. And, whether the baseball men of the 20th century like it or not, this is where baseball is going."---Dave Cameron, U.S.S. Mariner
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