2013 Bengals Playoff Edition Discussion (Part 4)

[KoryMac5]

That is just wrong. There are currently two OSU players on the team, Nugent and Sanzenbacher. I would love to see Hyde and a compliment to Gio, but the "Brown loves Buckeyes" is a mischaracterization.

Yeah I should have said local talent but the point remains that if Hyde or another local kid is there it may have more weight in the draft room.

Ultimately Lewis runs the draft these days but Brown still has some influence.

[5TimeWSChamps]

No chance Carr is there when the Bengals pick in Round 2.

But Murray or Mett will be there. Prefer Mett as he's the kinda QB Hue can build around

[WVRed]

That is just wrong. There are currently two OSU players on the team, Nugent and Sanzenbacher. I would love to see Hyde and a compliment to Gio, but the "Brown loves Buckeyes" is a mischaracterization.

If anything, Mike Brown loves SEC players.

Was Big Daddy the last first round pick by the Bengals that came from Ohio State? Still remember when the Bengals passed on Chris Gamble in favor of Chris Perry.

Not a fan of Hyde though, but I admit I really haven't looked much into draft prospects at this point.

[bucksfan2]

If anything, Mike Brown loves SEC players.

Was Big Daddy the last first round pick by the Bengals that came from Ohio State? Still remember when the Bengals passed on Chris Gamble in favor of Chris Perry.

Not a fan of Hyde though, but I admit I really haven't looked much into draft prospects at this point.

Big Daddy was the last guy I can remember the Bengals taking early in the draft. I can't recall a guy that the Bengals took in the first 3 or 4 rounds from OSU. Its shocking when you consider how many players OSU has put in the pros and how few the Bengals have actually drafted. They did take late round fliers on Boom Herron and Fragel but those guys were pretty much practice squad fodder and picked up by different organizations.

The local angle? If any team has a fascination with UC it is the Eagles, they have a ton of UC guys.

As for Hyde, I think Hyde will start to fall down the draft rankings. He is an older guy for one, more hits on his body. He doesn't have anything that would really excite you when his measurables are taken. He isn't a guy who will wow you in the 40 and he isn't a guy who is going to run away from defenders in the open field. He does a lot of good things with his feet work, he can catch the ball out of the backfield. When he runs he gets a good lean and falls forward when he is tackled.

I think Hyde would be a good compliment to Gio. I wouldn't use a 2nd rounder on him though. The difference between Hyde and Gio is that if Gio breaks into the secondary he could take in the distance. If Gio catches a ball out of the backfield he can make people miss and turn a swing pass into a big gainer. IMO Hyde doesn't have that break away speed and he is a guy more likely to try and run through a defender than allude him.

[Slyder]

According to Bengals.com, Jackson is a big proponent of the run game, which should take the pressure off Dalton.

I would be shocked if you all don't bring in Run DMC this offseason. He had his best year with Hue Jackson in Oakland, if he can stay healthy he can be a very effective weapon.

[gonelong]

If anything, Mike Brown loves SEC players.

Was Big Daddy the last first round pick by the Bengals that came from Ohio State? Still remember when the Bengals passed on Chris Gamble in favor of Chris Perry.

Not a fan of Hyde though, but I admit I really haven't looked much into draft prospects at this point.

Seems like there is a pipeline from Georgia to Cincinnati.

[Benihana]

Seems like there is a pipeline from Georgia to Cincinnati.

Yep. Pollack, Thurman, Boling, Atkins, and of course AJ. We love them 'Dawgs.

[Hillsdale87]

As for Hyde, I think Hyde will start to fall down the draft rankings. He is an older guy for one, more hits on his body. He doesn't have anything that would really excite you when his measurables are taken. He isn't a guy who will wow you in the 40 and he isn't a guy who is going to run away from defenders in the open field. He does a lot of good things with his feet work, he can catch the ball out of the backfield. When he runs he gets a good lean and falls forward when he is tackled.


Hyde does not have many hits on his body. He'll actually probably have less hits than almost anybody in the draft. He only has 523 carries across 4 years. Ka'Deem Carey from Arizona has 652 in the last 2 years. The most carries Hyde had in a game this year was 27, which is very reasonable.

I think Hyde is going to run pretty well at the combine. I would be surprised at anything over 4.6. Bernard ran a 4.53. Hyde has quick feet and good elusiveness for a guy his size. He also is a good receiving threat out of the backfield, which is uncommon for a big running back. I think he's pretty similar to Eddie Lacy. They're about the same size and have similar skill sets. Lacy's 40 yard dash was 4.62, but that has not been a problem.

I don't think he's a first round pick, and I'm surprised Kiper has him that high. But somewhere last 2nd or 3rd is reasonable I think.

[WMR]

Happy to see Gruden leave, hate losing Zim.

Too bad we couldn't have sent Marvin up to the GM booth and made Zim our HC.

I think that would have worked beautifully.

[medford]

If anything, Mike Brown loves SEC players.

Was Big Daddy the last first round pick by the Bengals that came from Ohio State? Still remember when the Bengals passed on Chris Gamble in favor of Chris Perry.

Not a fan of Hyde though, but I admit I really haven't looked much into draft prospects at this point.

Marvin didn't name Gamble specifically, but I've heard him tell a story where its pretty clear that the story is about Chris Gamble.

And here it is....

They went up to Ohio State (he did specifically say Ohio State, the question he was asked was about Ohio State players) and they wanted to look at a specific player (I forget the wording, but it was easy to understand he was talking about Chris Gamble w/o specifically saying Chris' name). They wanted Chris to do a handful of drills, including either a 40 yard dash or a shuttle or something of that ilk. Chris wouldn't do the drill, because he "couldn't find a pair of shoes to wear." Marvin's stated the obvious to the group he was speaking to that evening "Really? This is Ohio state and you can't 'find a pair of athletic shoes?' The Bengals pretty much took him off their draft board at that point."

[medford]

Hyde does not have many hits on his body. He'll actually probably have less hits than almost anybody in the draft. He only has 523 carries across 4 years. Ka'Deem Carey from Arizona has 652 in the last 2 years. The most carries Hyde had in a game this year was 27, which is very reasonable.

I think Hyde is going to run pretty well at the combine. I would be surprised at anything over 4.6. Bernard ran a 4.53. Hyde has quick feet and good elusiveness for a guy his size. He also is a good receiving threat out of the backfield, which is uncommon for a big running back. I think he's pretty similar to Eddie Lacy. They're about the same size and have similar skill sets. Lacy's 40 yard dash was 4.62, but that has not been a problem.

I don't think he's a first round pick, and I'm surprised Kiper has him that high. But somewhere last 2nd or 3rd is reasonable I think.

I don't think Hyde has the "wiggle" that Lacy displayed at Bama in terms of making guys miss, Hyde has better "vision" in my opinion

[traderumor]

Marvin didn't name Gamble specifically, but I've heard him tell a story where its pretty clear that the story is about Chris Gamble.

And here it is....

They went up to Ohio State (he did specifically say Ohio State, the question he was asked was about Ohio State players) and they wanted to look at a specific player (I forget the wording, but it was easy to understand he was talking about Chris Gamble w/o specifically saying Chris' name). They wanted Chris to do a handful of drills, including either a 40 yard dash or a shuttle or something of that ilk. Chris wouldn't do the drill, because he "couldn't find a pair of shoes to wear." Marvin's stated the obvious to the group he was speaking to that evening "Really? This is Ohio state and you can't 'find a pair of athletic shoes?' The Bengals pretty much took him off their draft board at that point."Maybe Gamble didn't want any part of the Bengals.

[Hillsdale87]

I don't think Hyde has the "wiggle" that Lacy displayed at Bama in terms of making guys miss, Hyde has better "vision" in my opinion

Lacy's spin is great, and Hyde doesn't have that. But Hyde has a good jump cut and enough elusiveness. But yea, he doesn't have anything to rival Lacy's spin