The 2020 NFL Season

[Kingspoint]

Derrick Henry's throw down on Josh Norman needs to be illustrated and handed out to all running backs from grade school on up...I cannot stop watching it...just awesome.

Dude's a stud, probably the best RB in the game right now. He stays healthy and on the field. There are many reasons why the Titans just demolished the undefeated Bills, are undefeated themselves, and are following a season where they played in the AFC Championship Game, and had a lead in it late. It's not a popular opinion, but Ryan Tannehill is good enough to win a Super Bowl. He was bad in the AFC Championship Game, but he still avoided mistakes and gave his team a chance.

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Gotta love the J-E-T-S Jets,Jets,Jets...

It's so sad.

[Kingspoint]

I don't know. Getting the gift of Joe Burrow handed to you and then doing nothing to keep him from getting injured or to assist in his development seems right up there to me, and actually more criminal than anything the JETS have done.

[Chip R]

Gotta love the J-E-T-S Jets,Jets,Jets...

The most overrated organization in the league.

[WVRed]

4 Falcons test positive.

Rona is really starting to take hold of sports.

[Hillsdale87]

I don't know. Getting the gift of Joe Burrow handed to you and then doing nothing to keep him from getting injured or to assist in his development seems right up there to me, and actually more criminal than anything the JETS have done.

If the Bengals are still in the same position in year 3 like the Jets are with Darnold, then I think that would be fair. I'm not saying the Bengals are doing great, but the Jets are on another level.

And I'm definitely not sold on Taylor, but Gase seems to be on another level of terrible.


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[adkindo]

4 Falcons test positive.

Rona is really starting to take hold of sports.

my guess is guys are just getting sloppy in regards to the following the strict guidelines and team protocols.

[Bob Sheed]

my guess is guys are just getting sloppy in regards to the following the strict guidelines and team protocols.

I think the sloppiness is compounding and will continue to do so.

[JaxRed]

4 Falcons test positive.

Rona is really starting to take hold of sports.

All NFL games proceeding as scheduled this week.

[adkindo]

A week after basically accepting Tampa Bay would not be a contender this season, they come out and play an extremely clean and dominating game against the undefeated Packers. The team that played today can contend for a Super Bowl berth.

[Assembly Hall]

A week after basically accepting Tampa Bay would not be a contender this season, they come out and play an extremely clean and dominating game against the undefeated Packers. The team that played today can contend for a Super Bowl berth.

I think they can get there. Did as soon as they got Brady.

[adkindo]

very cool moment after the Dolphins game....Tua got his first action, and returned to the field after the stadium emptied to just take it in....


Cameron Wolfe
@CameronWolfe

Tua Tagovailoa went back to the field and he’s sitting around the 15-yard-line in full uniform. It looks like he’s soaking this moment in. On November 16, 2019, Tua suffered a potentially career-ending injury. On October 18, 2020, he threw his first NFL passes.

7:23 PM · Oct 18, 2020

https://twitter.com/CameronWolfe/status/1317969501888139264

[adkindo]

Tampa Bay Buccaneers acquire starting New York Jets nose tackle Steve McLendon


Shortly after falling to 0-6, the New York Jets finalized a trade Sunday night that sends starting nose tackle Steve McLendon -- a captain -- to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, a source confirmed.

The Jets will receive a 2022 sixth-round draft pick in exchange for McLendon and a 2023 seventh-round pick.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30144146/tampa-bay-buccaneers-acquire-starting-jets-nose-tackle-steve-mclendon

could be an under the radar move that pays big dividends in filling the large void left by Vita Vea's absence against the run. At least it will be depth as it has been nearly impossible to win by running the ball against that Tampa Bay front 7 for 2 years.

[Kingspoint]

Only one of Derrick Henry's Man of Steel performances prevented the Titans from getting their first loss of the season (hats off to Romeo Crennel with the impact he's making in Houston) today.

Cannot emphasize enough the importance of having a Pro Bowl caliber Left Tackle who shows up every week. This could easily bring the Titans back to the pack.

From Rotoworld with Rotoworld comments:

FOX Sports' Jay Glazer reports the Titans fear a torn ACL for LT Taylor Lewan. Lewan will undergo Monday tests to confirm. It would be a huge blow for the 5-0 Titans. Likely replacement Ty Sambrailo was immediately beaten for a fumble-causing sack in Lewan's Sunday absence against the Texans. Lewan has had sporadic injury issues since entering the league in 2014, but he's missed only one game hurt in the past five years.

SOURCE: Profootballtalk on NBCSports.com

[JaxRed]

Tampa Bay Buccaneers acquire starting New York Jets nose tackle Steve McLendon



https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30144146/tampa-bay-buccaneers-acquire-starting-jets-nose-tackle-steve-mclendon

could be an under the radar move that pays big dividends in filling the large void left by Vita Vea's absence against the run. At least it will be depth as it has been nearly impossible to win by running the ball against that Tampa Bay front 7 for 2 years.

Jets worried they were too close in some of their ballgames....

[Bob Sheed]

Pulling for Dalton tonight!

[Hillsdale87]

The Cowboys game plan is terrible. Dalton is not as good as Dak, but they're calling plays like he's a rookie with no experience. They've thrown so many screens but have awesome receivers


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[Bob Sheed]

Zeke putting 2 on the ground doesn't help either.

[Kingspoint]

The Cowboys game plan is terrible. Dalton is not as good as Dak, but they're calling plays like he's a rookie with no experience. They've thrown so many screens but have awesome receivers


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My best friend is a Cowboys' fan, so we go back and forth. Kellen Moore is horrible as an Offensive Coordinator. Sad thing for Cowboys fans is that McCarthy will probably take over soon.

[Kingspoint]

Dalton's missing blitz pickups. I don't think his Receivers know how to recognize blitzes and to change their route based on the recognized blitz. This would drive Carson Palmer mad about Chad Johnson. The responsibility is on the Receivers. Brady has been frustrated by this in Tampa Bay. He never had this problem in New England.

[Hillsdale87]

My best friend is a Cowboys' fan, so we go back and forth. Kellen Moore is horrible as an Offensive Coordinator. Sad thing for Cowboys fans is that McCarthy will probably take over soon.

I think Moore is a bit hard to get a read on. He designs a pretty good offense. Obviously some of it is the fact that the defense is so terrible, but Dallas's offense is pretty impressive overall. Even after last night they still lead the league in yards/gm and are in the top 10 in points. And Dak definitely took a step forward with Moore as OC. But then they go through periods where it seems like nothing is working. I think "horrible" is way too harsh, as it seems like he's very creative, and I like his aggressiveness. I do agree that he struggles as a play caller sometimes though, but I think that will get smoothed out as he gains experience. He's only 32, so I think it's reasonable to expect some growing pains.

Even if he is in fact horrible, he's still significantly better than whatever they're doing on defense. What a mess. I can't remember a division as terrible as the NFC East. I wonder what the line would be for all those teams against the Bengals. We'll find out in a couple weeks, but I'd imagine the Bengals will be favored against Washington and the Giants. It's probably a push with the Cowboys, and then the Eagles would probably be slightly favored as they've picked it up slightly, although the Bengals should have beaten them.

[Boston Red]

I still think Dallas can eek out 6-10 and win the division over the 5-10-1 Eagles.

[Assembly Hall]

I still think Dallas can eek out 6-10 and win the division over the 5-10-1 Eagles.

We are on the precipice of the worst division winner ever.

[KoryMac5]

Tua to get the start week 8 per Schefter

[Boston Red]

Weird to bench Fitzpatrick now. Risky move for sure.

[adkindo]

Weird to bench Fitzpatrick now. Risky move for sure.

I do not get it at all....the Dolphins are in 2nd place in their division, only trailing by a game. The team has been in every game it lost this year, and 2 of the 3 losses were against very good teams; a 3 point loss to the Bills and a 8 point loss to Seattle. I get Tua is the future, but I am not sure more learning by watching would hurt as long as Fitzpatrick is keeping the team competitive. Now they are going to throw Tua into the fire against Aaron Donald, Jalen Ramsey and a Top 5 defense.....good luck.

[WrongVerb]

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones laments 'glaring difference' between Dak Prescott, Andy Dalton (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/cowboys-owner-jerry-jones-laments-glaring-difference-between-dak-prescott-andy-dalton/ar-BB1adtyE)


This team no longer has Dak Prescott.

“That was the pretty glaring difference out there last night,” Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said Tuesday morning on Dallas radio station 105.3 The Fan, referencing his team's 38-10 loss. “But it doesn’t have to stay that way.”


Jori Epstein
@JoriEpstein
Asked Cowboys coach Mike McCarthy about Andy Dalton's first game.

McCarthy: "Not to be rude, I have no assessments for you tonight. ... Most importantly, I didn’t coach very well. … I’m not getting it done right now."
8:44 PM · Oct 19, 2020

Ouch!

[UKFlounder]

Imagine if they didn’t have division games to generate some wins. Seeing their records in the other 10 games by the end of the year might be interesting



I still think Dallas can eek out 6-10 and win the division over the 5-10-1 Eagles.

[RichRed]

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones laments 'glaring difference' between Dak Prescott, Andy Dalton (https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/cowboys-owner-jerry-jones-laments-glaring-difference-between-dak-prescott-andy-dalton/ar-BB1adtyE)


I wonder if Dalton's backup, my man Ben DiNucci from JMU, will see some playing time. Some of the folks in Dallas saw some parallels to Tony Romo in DiNucci.

[Bob Sheed]

Dalton is what Dalton always has been.

Dalton is a Game Manager QB that absolutely requires a decent offensive line. Without that, you might as well start someone else. Because Andy is a lot of things, but he is not mobile, and his does not improvise well under pressure at all.

But yeah, give him some protection and a solid supporting cast and he will win some games for you.

[Kingspoint]

From Rotoworld with Rotoworld comments:

NFL Network's Jane Slater reports Cowboys players have begun forcefully criticizing the coaching staff after originally agreeing to "keep things internal." “Totally unprepared," were the words of one player. "They don’t teach. They don’t have any sense of adjusting on the fly.” Another added “they just aren’t good at their jobs." Other than that, we hope things are going well. New coach Mike McCarthy sold an offseason narrative of coming into the 21st century and learning analytics, but none of the analytics in the world can make up for having Mike Nolan as your defensive coordinator. The Cowboys have allowed an astonishing 218 points through their first six games, which is tied for the fourth most in NFL history. Dak Prescott's season-ending ankle injury gives McCarthy an alibi, but this could turn into a one-and-done situation. It wouldn't be the first time with a retread. Of course, all of this ignores that the 2-4 Cowboys still sit atop the horrid NFC East.

SOURCE: Jane Slater on Twitter

[Kingspoint]

I think Moore is a bit hard to get a read on. He designs a pretty good offense. Obviously some of it is the fact that the defense is so terrible, but Dallas's offense is pretty impressive overall. Even after last night they still lead the league in yards/gm and are in the top 10 in points. And Dak definitely took a step forward with Moore as OC. But then they go through periods where it seems like nothing is working. I think "horrible" is way too harsh, as it seems like he's very creative, and I like his aggressiveness. I do agree that he struggles as a play caller sometimes though, but I think that will get smoothed out as he gains experience. He's only 32, so I think it's reasonable to expect some growing pains.

Even if he is in fact horrible, he's still significantly better than whatever they're doing on defense. What a mess. I can't remember a division as terrible as the NFC East. I wonder what the line would be for all those teams against the Bengals. We'll find out in a couple weeks, but I'd imagine the Bengals will be favored against Washington and the Giants. It's probably a push with the Cowboys, and then the Eagles would probably be slightly favored as they've picked it up slightly, although the Bengals should have beaten them.

Hung around Bill Walton too much. "Horrible" and extreme views are too much a part of my makeup.

[JaxRed]

I can envision Giants overtaking Cowboys for title after starting 0-5

[Kingspoint]

Jets swapping 6th and 7th Rd picks again, except this time it's a 6th in 2022, so that's equivalent to a 7th in 2021.

From Rotoworld with Rotoworld comments:

49ers acquired OLB Jordan Willis and a 2021 seventh-round pick from the Jets in exchange for a 2022 sixth-round pick. The former third-rounder of the Bengals in 2017, Willis has three career sacks and has played 11% of the Jets' defensive snaps this season. He's unlikely to become a significant difference-maker for the Niners.

RELATED: New York Jets

[Kingspoint]

From Rotoworld with Rotoworld comments:

Ryan Fitzpatrick said he was "shocked" by the Dolphins' decision to bench him and name Tua Tagovailoa the starter for Week 8 against the Rams. Fitzpatrick was caught off guard when he was called into coach Brian Flores' office to learn the news and admitted it "broke his heart" to find out he's not the starter anymore. "I basically got fired yesterday and my day today consisted of Zoom meetings listening to the guy who fired me, and being in a spaced out room listening to the guy who replaced me," Fitzpatrick said. He felt the Dolphins were his team right now, and he was playing well, leading the Dolphins to a 3-3 record headed into their bye week. Clearly, if this was Miami's plan all along, Fitzpatrick had no idea and was blindsided by it. There's been some chatter that the Dolphins could potentially listen to trade offers for Fitzpatrick ahead of the November 3 deadline. The NFL is always more fun when Fitzpatrick is playing.

SOURCE: Cameron Wolfe on Twitter

[Slyder]

From Rotoworld with Rotoworld comments:

Ryan Fitzpatrick said he was "shocked" by the Dolphins' decision to bench him and name Tua Tagovailoa the starter for Week 8 against the Rams. Fitzpatrick was caught off guard when he was called into coach Brian Flores' office to learn the news and admitted it "broke his heart" to find out he's not the starter anymore. "I basically got fired yesterday and my day today consisted of Zoom meetings listening to the guy who fired me, and being in a spaced out room listening to the guy who replaced me," Fitzpatrick said. He felt the Dolphins were his team right now, and he was playing well, leading the Dolphins to a 3-3 record headed into their bye week. Clearly, if this was Miami's plan all along, Fitzpatrick had no idea and was blindsided by it. There's been some chatter that the Dolphins could potentially listen to trade offers for Fitzpatrick ahead of the November 3 deadline. The NFL is always more fun when Fitzpatrick is playing.

SOURCE: Cameron Wolfe on Twitter

The Cowboys should be on the phone like 2 days ago to see about bringing him in if thats the best Dalton has to offer.

[Betterread]

Vikings are bailing out the flooded Viking ship: they dumped Nkagoue to the Ravens for a #3 2021 pick and a #4 or #5 2021 pick. He is from Baltimore, so he gets to go home. We just got 8” of snow, and the team is rebuilding the defense, so he must be happy.
He can definitely generate pressure from the edge, and he has a knack for slapping the ball out of the QBs hand a bunch of times each year.

[WVRed]

Mantei Teo’s girlfriend tackled Daniel Jones tonight.

[adkindo]

Antonio Brown reaches contract agreement with Tampa Bay Buccaneers (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30175919/sources-antonio-brown-reaches-contract-agreement-tampa-bay-buccaneers)


Antonio Brown and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers have reached an agreement on a one-year deal, sources told ESPN's Adam Schefter on Friday.

While contract language still has to be finalized and Brown has to pass COVID-19 protocols before he can join the team, Brown is likely to make his Bucs debut in Week 9 against the New Orleans Saints on Nov. 8.

interesting since they have struggled to get Mike Evans enough targets....

[Kingspoint]

Antonio Brown reaches contract agreement with Tampa Bay Buccaneers (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30175919/sources-antonio-brown-reaches-contract-agreement-tampa-bay-buccaneers)



interesting since they have struggled to get Mike Evans enough targets....

I don't get it. Also, I don't get it that there were supposedly many suitors.

[UKFlounder]

Apparently Tom Brady has a crush on Brown and Brady was able to overrule Arians, who months ago had said there was no room for Brown

I think Seattle may have been the only other semi-interested team.


I don't get it. Also, I don't get it that there were supposedly many suitors.

[adkindo]

Apparently Tom Brady has a crush on Brown and Brady was able to overrule Arians, who months ago had said there was no room for Brown

I think Seattle may have been the only other semi-interested team.

Russ and Geno really wanted him....he is close with Geno. Here is the issue I have with it as a Bucs fan.....Brady came to Tampa claiming it was because they had all these weapons.....All Pro receivers....good TE's and a young RB about the break out. He gets here, and immediately we have to add his former teammate and TE. Next, we have to go add another RB....and now he needs to bring in a WR. Honestly, it all feels a little disrespectful to me. I mean if you are Howard and Brate, how do you feel when your QB is claiming he needs another TE....if you are Ronald Jones and your QB is asking for Fournette...and now if you are Evans and Godwin.

There is some claims that Evans is getting double covered too often and they thing Brown on the other side will prevent that....also heard he may play some returner and even operate out of the backfield on 3rd downs.....have to wait and see.

[Kingspoint]

Russ and Geno really wanted him....he is close with Geno. Here is the issue I have with it as a Bucs fan.....Brady came to Tampa claiming it was because they had all these weapons.....All Pro receivers....good TE's and a young RB about the break out. He gets here, and immediately we have to add his former teammate and TE. Next, we have to go add another RB....and now he needs to bring in a WR. Honestly, it all feels a little disrespectful to me. I mean if you are Howard and Brate, how do you feel when your QB is claiming he needs another TE....if you are Ronald Jones and your QB is asking for Fournette...and now if you are Evans and Godwin.

There is some claims that Evans is getting double covered too often and they thing Brown on the other side will prevent that....also heard he may play some returner and even operate out of the backfield on 3rd downs.....have to wait and see.

Could not agree more, and the players already there are far superior to the ones that were added.

[Boston Red]

Andy Dalton is quite bad at football.

[Kingspoint]

Andy Dalton is quite bad at football.

Dalton is wishing he was playing behind the Bengals' O-Line right now.

[JaxRed]

Wonder if the Dallas coach might be a one-and done?

[Boston Red]

Wonder if the Dallas coach might be a one-and done?

He should be fired tomorrow.

[WVRed]

That hit on Dalton would make Vontaze Burfict jealous.

[KoryMac5]

This is when you know your team has quit...your QB gets laid out and none of your teammates goes after the guy who did it.

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/mike-mccarthy-shames-cowboys-reaction-204445033.html

[oregonred]

Record vs, other divisions

AFC North 12-3-1
NFC East 2-16-1

[oregonred]

NFL Tankathon http://www.tankathon.com/nfl

Bengals at #7

Jets clearly in pole position for Lawrence
Jags looking good for Fields

NFC East awfulness may keep the three terrible teams out of the Lawrence/Fields/Sewell derby

[WrongVerb]

As a Bengals fan and a Seahawks fan, it pleases me greatly to see playing cornerback for the Cardinals is none other than our old friend Dre Kirkpatrick.

[WrongVerb]

Seahawks had goal to go. Wilson passes to the right, but doesn't see Budda Baker, who intercepts and starts running back a sure pick-6. However, D.K. Metcalf had something to say about that.

If you look away only one highlight, it must be this one: https://twitter.com/KySportsRadio/status/1320536655208566784?s=19

Oh, and the Cardinals didn't score at all from that.

[adkindo]

Buc's pulled away to beat the Raiders 45-20 today. Brady had a big day throwing for 369 yards, 4 TD's and 0 INT's while also rushing for a TD. Still.....I do not get why the guy will not throw to Mike Evans!! Scotty Miller and Godwin get 9 targets....Gronk 8 targets, Fournette 7 targets.....and Mike Evans gets 2 targets! Evans has averaged 9.3 targets per game over the first 6 years of his career, and this year with Brady he is averaging 6.2 targets and only targeted 2 times in each of the last 2 games. The guy has averaged 140 targets per year over his first 6 years, and this year is on pace for less than 100 targets and that is before they incorporate Antonio Brown. I know it should not matter, but Brady was not throwing to the TE much early in the year, then once OJ Howard goes down, he can't throw enough to Gronk who is half the receiver Howard is at this point in his career.

Ask any long time Bucs fan, and they will tell you Lavonte David is the heartbeat of the Defense, and Evans is the heartbeat of the offense.....get him the dang ball.

[Kingspoint]

Wonder if the Dallas coach might be a one-and done?

He never protected Rogers his entire time in Green Bay.

[Kingspoint]

NFL Tankathon http://www.tankathon.com/nfl

Bengals at #7

Jets clearly in pole position for Lawrence
Jags looking good for Fields

NFC East awfulness may keep the three terrible teams out of the Lawrence/Fields/Sewell derby

They have to play each other twice, so that helps.

[adkindo]

Are we sure Lawrence goes ahead of Fields?

[adkindo]

Arizona comes back from being down 27-14 to tie the Seahawks @ 34. Going to OT.

[adkindo]

Arizona decides to try to win it with a 41 yard FG on 2nd down and 2:42 on the clock....and they missed it! I will never understand the kicking anything but a chip shot on an early down and time on the clock....just run it up the middle if you are conservative and try to get your kicker as close as possible. Personally....in 2020, I am never turning the game over to my kicker before 4th down or time expiring....maybe on 3rd to protect against a bad snap. These kickers are not automatic....especially with the pressure. Use your downs to try to score a TD.

[adkindo]

Wilson throws his 3rd interception of the night, and Arizona kicks a FG for the win and Seattle's first loss this year.

Pittsburgh is the team left without a loss.

[Stray]

Metcalf's rundown tackle on that pick tonight might be the best play of the season so far. Dude is a freak of nature.

[Stray]

I mean my God man. Tried to find one that'd embed, but I guess none of them can thanks to the NFL.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J62GsevPwiQ

[RichRed]

I wonder if Dalton's backup, my man Ben DiNucci from JMU, will see some playing time. Some of the folks in Dallas saw some parallels to Tony Romo in DiNucci.

Well, DiNucci did get some playing time but it's a shame it happened because of a knockout hit on Dalton. I was very conflicted watching the team I've been a fan of for over 40 years sack the daylights out of the first QB from my alma mater to ever take a snap in the NFL.

[adkindo]

Metcalf's rundown tackle on that pick tonight might be the best play of the season so far. Dude is a freak of nature.

I think the amazing thing on that video is it is very clear how big Metcalf is, and has that world class speed. It is one thing if it is one of those small slot receivers....but Metcalf is carrying weight on that frame.

[adkindo]

Well, DiNucci did get some playing time but it's a shame it happened because of a knockout hit on Dalton. I was very conflicted watching the team I've been a fan of for over 40 years sack the daylights out of the first QB from my alma mater to ever take a snap in the NFL.

I recall him from college.....WVU opened with JMU last season and he was the QB. How long is Dalton out? Do the Cowboys call Miami to check on Fitzpatrick? Not a Cowboys fan, but it would be so cool to see Fitzpatrick leading "America's Team"!

[RichRed]

I recall him from college.....WVU opened with JMU last season and he was the QB. How long is Dalton out? Do the Cowboys call Miami to check on Fitzpatrick? Not a Cowboys fan, but it would be so cool to see Fitzpatrick leading "America's Team"!

The way Dalton looked after that hit, I'd be surprised if he plays the next game. Selfishly, I'd like to see DiNucci get the start, but he'd be set up to fail behind that o-line (as would most any QB).

[Roy Tucker]

How Jon Bostic isn’t suspended for that late hit on Dalton, I’ll never know. I thought the NFL was trying to corral that kind of play.

[Bob Sheed]

How Jon Boston isn’t suspended for that late hit on Dalton, I’ll never know. I thought the NFL was trying to corral that kind of play.

Looks like the commish weighed in the subject though:

https:///espn.com


"In regard to the late hit on Dallas Quarterback Andy Dalton, delivered by Jon Boston... As most are well aware, the NFL has a zero-tolerance policy in regard to cheap shots, particularly when it involves the Quarterback position. Therefore, it is our decision that Vontaze Burfict will be suspended for the remainder of the 2020 season. We hope this will be a deterrent to future unsportsmanlike conduct from other players. Thank you very much. And Go Steelers! Wait, scratch that last part. Nah...leave it. Who cares..." -Roger Goddell

[Reds Freak]

I mean my God man. Tried to find one that'd embed, but I guess none of them can thanks to the NFL.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J62GsevPwiQ

Wow, that is one of the most inspiring things I've seen on a football field in a long time. Thanks for sharing.

[adkindo]

Tampa Bay Buccaneers' Chris Godwin having surgery on broken finger (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30202239/sources-tampa-bay-buccaneers-chris-godwin-having-surgery-broken-finger)


Tampa Bay Buccaneers Pro Bowl wide receiver Chris Godwin suffered a broken index finger Sunday against the Las Vegas Raiders and is undergoing surgery Tuesday, sources confirmed to ESPN.

this guy can't catch a break this season!

[Chip R]

Tampa Bay Buccaneers' Chris Godwin having surgery on broken finger (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30202239/sources-tampa-bay-buccaneers-chris-godwin-having-surgery-broken-finger)



this guy can't catch a break this season!

His finger did. ;)

[WrongVerb]

Michael Gehlken
@GehlkenNFL

Cowboys QB Andy Dalton attended this morning’s team meeting, but he hasn’t progressed enough in concussion protocol to attend position meetings. Won’t practice today. Mike McCarthy doesn’t expect him available until “end of the week at the earliest.” Onward with Ben DiNucci.
8:41am · 28 Oct 2020

[Hillsdale87]

Curtis Samuel would be a good guy for the Bengals to Target in FA this offseason. Has never been used especially well in Carolina, but he's one of the fastest guys in the league. I think he has more upside than he's been able to show so far. Would be a good complement to Higgins and Boyd as a guy who can take the top off a defense, like Ross was supposed to be. He'd be a mid-tier FA, so affordable for the Bengals and would allow them to go all in on OL and DL in the draft


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[Kingspoint]

Wow, that is one of the most inspiring things I've seen on a football field in a long time. Thanks for sharing.

Metcalf has Hall-of-Fame written all over him. Wouldn't surprise me a bit if he's this year's Super Bowl MVP.

[oregonred]

With the Falcons win last night the Bengals now sit at #6 in the way too early 2021 draft standings

The Miami owned Texans pick is #4 :eek:

[Bob Sheed]

The Miami owned Texans pick is #4 :eek:

The Texans will be reeling from last seasons GM incompetence for years to come.

Think about it. The Bengals are still reeling from whiffing on two offensive linemen 1st round picks. But Houston is now having to rebuild with no 1st round picks.

Eek is right.

Plus the annoying byproduct of giving Miami yet another top 5 pick.

[GAC]

Looking at this Ravens-Steelers match-up. A vast majority pick the Ravens, primarily because of Jackson, and say the win probability for the Steelers is at 30%. I don't see it (lol). Both of these teams pride themselves on defense (pressure); but I'm giving that edge to the Steelers. Jackson is not having the year he had in '19. And still struggles with accuracy throwing the ball downfield. Pitt blitzes almost half the time this season. I see them putting pressure on Jackson, and limiting his rushing yards.

Last year, in his lone start vs the Steelers (minus Big Ben), Jackson was sacked 5x and threw 3 INTS in an OT win. He rushed for 70 yds, but last year Pitt's Run D allowed 110 yds/game. This year it's 69 yds/game.

It's also the fifth matchup in NFL history between a 6-0 team (or better) and the reigning league MVP. The unbeaten team won three of the previous four such meetings.

Big Ben, and this defense, is going to be the difference this year IMO.

[adkindo]

Looking at this Ravens-Steelers match-up. A vast majority pick the Ravens, primarily because of Jackson, and say the win probability for the Steelers is at 30%. I don't see it (lol). Both of these teams pride themselves on defense (pressure); but I'm giving that edge to the Steelers. Jackson is not having the year he had in '19. And still struggles with accuracy throwing the ball downfield. Pitt blitzes almost half the time this season. I see them putting pressure on Jackson, and limiting his rushing yards.

Last year, in his lone start vs the Steelers (minus Big Ben), Jackson was sacked 5x and threw 3 INTS in an OT win. He rushed for 70 yds, but last year Pitt's Run D allowed 110 yds/game. This year it's 69 yds/game.

It's also the fifth matchup in NFL history between a 6-0 team (or better) and the reigning league MVP. The unbeaten team won three of the previous four such meetings.

Big Ben, and this defense, is going to be the difference this year IMO.

I would not touch that game as far as betting....but I may lean Ravens only because they are home? It feels like it could easily go either way.

[adkindo]

going into the 4th Quarter, the Dolphins had 28 points on the scoreboard, and only 93 total offensive yards....

[Boston Red]

going into the 4th Quarter, the Dolphins had 28 points on the scoreboard, and only 93 total offensive yards....

That's a pretty good team. I think making Tua the starter is a mistake. I guess they're 100% playing for next year.

[Kingspoint]

That's a pretty good team. I think making Tua the starter is a mistake. I guess they're 100% playing for next year.

They truly wanted to see what they have in Tua. It seemed to them a good time to take a look at him. They'll probably go back to Fitzpatrick, but with the looks they've had of Tua, they can then go into next year's draft with more questions answered than they would have had if they would have only put him into games in garbage time.

Miami is loaded with more picks...so many, that if they made a mistake with Tua, they could draft another QB.

[Boston Red]

This is an awful Sunday night game. Someone should probably check to be sure Wentz didnt bet on Dallas.

[Kingspoint]

This is an awful Sunday night game. Someone should probably check to be sure Wentz didnt bet on Dallas.

Dallas' QB made sure they wouldn't win.

[JaxRed]

They truly wanted to see what they have in Tua. It seemed to them a good time to take a look at him. They'll probably go back to Fitzpatrick, but with the looks they've had of Tua, they can then go into next year's draft with more questions answered than they would have had if they would have only put him into games in garbage time.

Miami is loaded with more picks...so many, that if they made a mistake with Tua, they could draft another QB.

Unless Tua gets hurt, I don't think there is anyway they go back to Fitz. In fact if Dallas wanted him and gave me a 4th, I'd trade him.

[Kingspoint]

Unless Tua gets hurt, I don't think there is anyway they go back to Fitz. In fact if Dallas wanted him and gave me a 4th, I'd trade him.

MIA doesn't do anything like anyone else,...certainly not the last 18 months, anyway. They have been the most impressive franchise in the NFL, not something I thought I would be saying about the Dolphins for at least another 10 years.

They don't need a 4th Round pick. Not at all. They are loaded in picks. They had so many this year that there's a limit to how many new players they can add to the team. They do need to keep winning, if possible and to have a good QB behind Tua to keep things positive for the rest of the team for the rest of this season.

[adkindo]

Jimmy G out indefinitely.....Kittles out 8 weeks with broken bone....and the 49'ers trade Kwon Alexander to the Saints. Appears the 49'ers are looking ahead to next season, while if Alexander can get and stay healthy, he could help the Saints.

[adkindo]

Tampa Bay looks like azz the first half.....Brady's arm suddenly looks weak again.

[adkindo]

The Bucs escape NY with a win....better play at a higher level next week. 6-2 halfway through the season....on pace to finish 12-4 as I predicted before the season.

[RichRed]

Dallas' QB made sure they wouldn't win.

Hey, lay off my man DiNucci! It was a rough performance but really, he looked like what he is: A 3rd-string rookie QB drafted in the 7th round from an FCS school, making his NFL debut behind a bad o-line. I was at least hoping he'd get one TD pass though.

[Boston Red]

Well, Dalton has the Covid, so DiNucci will get another shot. Against the Steelers. Good luck rook!

[RichRed]

Well, Dalton has the Covid, so DiNucci will get another shot. Against the Steelers. Good luck rook!

Ouch. Not sure whether I'd rather be Dalton or Nooch in that scenario.

[Boston Red]

Well, it may be okay to be DiNucci as it turns out. Apparently Dallas is thinking of starting Cooper Rush instead on Sunday. Yes, THE Cooper Rush.

[adkindo]

Well, it may be okay to be DiNucci as it turns out. Apparently Dallas is thinking of starting Cooper Rush instead on Sunday. Yes, THE Cooper Rush.

his Wikipedia page claims he still plays for the Giants....

[Boston Red]

his Wikipedia page claims he still plays for the Giants....

Someone just edited it. This Rush guy is getting his one moment of glory as starting QB of the Dallas Cowboys. Good for him! I doubt it will go well. :laugh:

[texasdave]

His Wikipedia page must have been updated:
On October 30, 2020, Rush was signed to the Dallas Cowboys practice squad, after a Dak Prescott injury and Andy Dalton's positive COVID-19 test.

[Kingspoint]

Hey, lay off my man DiNucci! It was a rough performance but really, he looked like what he is: A 3rd-string rookie QB drafted in the 7th round from an FCS school, making his NFL debut behind a bad o-line. I was at least hoping he'd get one TD pass though.

They declared him not ready to play QB in the NFL for Week 9 and are going with others who have as little reason to be playing the position, too.

[Boston Red]

It seems the Steelers decided to take this week off.

[Reds Freak]

It seems the Steelers decided to take this week off.

Refs making sure the Steelers take this one. Some ridiculous calls.

[Bob Sheed]

Refs making sure the Steelers take this one. Some ridiculous calls.

That roughing the passer penalty for lightly brushing against Rothlesberger was pure NFL.

[Reds Freak]

That roughing the passer penalty for lightly brushing against Rothlesberger was pure NFL.

The bigger one for me was calling the fumble back after the Steeler receiver falls over after being tapped by a linebacker.

[Bob Sheed]

The bigger one for me was calling the fumble back after the Steeler receiver falls over after being tapped by a linebacker.

I'd be more on board with computer referees than I would be for computer umpires.

The "Steeler" advantage just gets old to me, more than the "vet" advantage in baseball.

[adkindo]

Tampa Bay starting off sluggish again....this gets old week after week. Sean Murphy Bunting is the weakest link on TB's defense...he is the nickel corner, and he has been azz for 2 years. TB should have sought to replace him before the deadline. He had became one of those rare players that sucks so bad, I dislike him and it is personal.

[adkindo]

so far...

a broken down Gronk - 5 Targets for 2 yards
1st Game Antonio Brown - 2 Targets for 6 yards
backup Scotty Miller - 2 Targets for 0 yards

Mike Evans - 0 Targets for 0 yards

This crap is getting old....

[adkindo]

Quit watching the game after the 2nd interception, but the boxscore suggests it did not get better. All three games the Bucs has lost this year have been on Brady in my opinion. He opens his post game press conference with "it start's with me"....yeah, no sh%t....it also ends with him. I will continue to question if the Buc would be better with this improved running game, offensive line and defensive secondary....would Winston have been the better option.

[Kingspoint]

Quit watching the game after the 2nd interception, but the boxscore suggests it did not get better. All three games the Bucs has lost this year have been on Brady in my opinion. He opens his post game press conference with "it start's with me"....yeah, no sh%t....it also ends with him. I will continue to question if the Buc would be better with this improved running game, offensive line and defensive secondary....would Winston have been the better option.

And all the money spent on Brady spent on something else.

- - - Updated - - -

Btw, why isn't Winston starting somewhere?

[JaxRed]

And all the money spent on Brady spent on something else.

- - - Updated - - -

Btw, why isn't Winston starting somewhere?

Because he is no good?

[Assembly Hall]

Because he is no good?

There are teams out there that could have used him.

[Boston Red]

He'd be the top QB for Dallas. Not exactly high praise...

[adkindo]

Because he is no good?

I disagree....he has a gunslinger mentality which gets him in trouble with turnovers....but that was put on steroids with Arians scheme and no running game. It did not help that most of Winstons time in Tampa, the Bucs had a terrible pass defense and Winston knew he had to try to score as often as possible because the defense would bleed TD's. I am not removing the blame from him.....he made me shake my head often with poor decisions or refusing to just throw the ball away....but he has a cannon for an arm and knew how to get the ball to his playmakers.

[JaxRed]

I bet you Jameis is not a starter to begin 2021 season either.

[Kingspoint]

I bet you Jameis is not a starter to begin 2021 season either.

Whether someone is a Starter in the NFL cannot be judged to be a correct move based on the decisions of NFL organizations.

[adkindo]

how is this roughing the passer?!?!

https://twitter.com/ZacOnTheMic/status/1328051365407580161

[adkindo]

Ronald Jones 98 yard run for a TD!!!!!! Longest TD run in Tampa Bay history!

[GAC]

Trying to stay awake watching this Browns -Texan game LOL

[adkindo]

Trying to stay awake watching this Browns -Texan game LOL

an offensive shootout ;)

[GAC]

Been hilarious, and a comedy of errors on both sides LOL

[Kingspoint]

Been hilarious, and a comedy of errors on both sides LOL

NFL Football 2020.

[GAC]

NFL Football 2020.

For the most part, in my opinion, a team's record don't mean nothing this year.

[Kingspoint]

Not good for the Saints' player getting knocked out by a Niner.

Need to hope he's not paralyzed.

Player should be fined 500K for that hit. Blatant shot to the head on a defenseless player.

I'd fine him first. Then kick him out of the league as an example.

[Kingspoint]

Whitworth getting the ultimate respect. Carted off to the lockerroom after an accidental hit from behind and his left leg buckled. Russell Wilson and another Seahawk come over from their sideline to pay their respects before he's carted off.

There are some classy people in the NFL. Russel Wilson and Andrew Whitworth are two of them. Anyone related to Mike Brown and his ways of doing things is classless.

[adkindo]

At least we have the answer to who the Saints would turn to for every down QB snaps if Brees cannot go....

[WrongVerb]

Kyler Murray to DeAndre Hopkins is going to be on highlight films 50 years from now.

See this link for video: https://twitter.com/Aestrada_10/status/1328135052656406533?s=09

[Kingspoint]

Kyler Murray to DeAndre Hopkins is going to be on highlight films 50 years from now.

I was already getting blown out in FFB, but my QB is Murray (yes, I have the most points in the league), so I've been rooting for him all year. Could not believe what I saw.

[Kingspoint]

98-yard TD run takes second best play of the day. Amazing!

[GAC]

Bettors ain't too happy with Brown's Chubb for running out of bounds, not making point spread. Suck it up buttercups! LOL

[Chip R]

For the most part, in my opinion, a team's record don't mean nothing this year.

Tell that to the NFC East.

[oregonred]

That Dolphins/Texans trade for the first two picks in 2021 and first last year is looking more horrendous by the week

[WrongVerb]

‘Fire Jimmy Garoppolo’ bluster is expected from 49ers fans, but it’s wrong (https://www.sfchronicle.com/49ers/annkillion/article/Fire-Jimmy-Garoppolo-bluster-is-expected-15727589.php)


Everyone wants a new, mobile young quarterback. Everyone wants Patrick Mahomes or Kyler Murray. They used to want Lamar Jackson — that was a whole year ago — but the reigning MVP is having a more difficult season than he did last year, so he isn’t mentioned as often in the ongoing “Why can’t the 49ers get … ?” game.

If the 49ers were to move on from Garoppolo they would have to be certain they were upgrading. What would that look like?


Unless you think the 49ers are going to find some way to land Clemson’s Trevor Lawrence, it seems unlikely that there will be a turn-key quarterback who can step right into the starting role as a rookie. This season has proved that can happen: Joe Burrow with the Bengals, Justin Herbert with the Chargers and Tua Tagovailoa in Miami have been difference makers. But Shanahan’s famously complex offense is challenging. Also, next spring’s draft seems likely to be difficult in terms of evaluation: pandemic interruptions of college games, diminished scouting opportunities, and erratic training for players all will mess with the process. Still, the 49ers should definitely draft a quarterback to groom behind Garoppolo.

[GAC]

Tell that to the NFC East.

Yeah, but I was referring more to that Sunday's opposition, their record, and win probability. The fact, at this point in the season, that a team has only won 2 or 3 games means little from what I'm seeing. Who would have thunk the 1 win Bengals would man-handle the Titans? Plenty of other examples to sight.

[Todd Gack]

I see the Lamar Jackson orgy has died down in here.

[GAC]

I see the Lamar Jackson orgy has died down in here.

It's the same question-mark with him - his accuracy throwing the ball downfield. And teams are learning/adapting their defenses to these option QBs who have been in the league for years (lol). It's catching up to them.

[Bob Sheed]

It's the same question-mark with him - his accuracy throwing the ball downfield. And teams are learning/adapting their defenses to these option QBs who have been in the league for years (lol). It's catching up to them.

Fast, mobile, QBs have been around the league for 50 years. But they have never operated with the impunity they have now. Jackson would be a pancake already if it was 1988.

The Ravens will adjust. As long as QBs still have a protective bubble around him, he should be fine. Until he takes a cheap shot. When do they play the Steelers next? :lol:

[Rojo Rijo]

One thing I've heard about the Ravens/LJack is Greg Roman's offenses are typically high octane at first but then become predictable with enough tape. Even Jackson has stated this season it feels like the defenses know what plays the offense is going to run. Roman has a history of really hot starts with other mobile QBs with Kaepernick in SF and Tyrod in Buffalo before cooling off considerably. He was only in Buffalo 2 years but Taylor was much better in year one than year two.

I'm not surprised Jackson and that offense has experienced some regression, but the amount so far has been a lot more than I would've expected.

[WrongVerb]

Giants fire offensive line coach Marc Colombo (https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/11/18/giants-fire-offensive-line-coach-marc-colombo/)


The Giants are shaking up their coaching staff in the middle of the season.

Giants head coach Joe Judge has fired offensive line coach Marc Colombo and hired Dave DeGuglielmo to replace him, Tom Pelissero of NFL Network reports.



Jason McIntyre
@jasonrmcintyre

SCOOP: I'm told NY Giants coaches Joe Judge and Marc Colombo got into a fistfight this morning.

Punches thrown. I'm told Colombo got the better of him, and Judge fired him instantly.

ProFootballTalk @ProFootballTalk

Giants fire offensive line coach Marc Colombo wp.me/pbBqYq-bIYP
9:32am · 18 Nov 2020

[UKFlounder]

Wow

I guess beating up your boss is not good for job security



Giants fire offensive line coach Marc Colombo (https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/11/18/giants-fire-offensive-line-coach-marc-colombo/)

[Kingspoint]

Wow

I guess beating up your boss is not good for job security

So, you may as well win the fight.

[GAC]

Fast, mobile, QBs have been around the league for 50 years. But they have never operated with the impunity they have now. Jackson would be a pancake already if it was 1988.

QBs today are more protected by rules then they were back in the 60s-70s. Look at all the solid QBs back then that had their careers cut short because of injury and taking a beating. And for the most part, these weren't option QBs, like today. They left the pocket only when they had to ... they scrambled, ran for their lives, only when they had to. They passed the ball or handed it off to the RB (lol).

QBs today, like Newton, Jackson, etc, are putting themselves out their, like a RB, to weekly take a beating. Look at Newton now?

I'll take a Burrows-style, primarily a pocket style QB, over a Jackson every day of the week. Yeah, Burrows is athletic and can run. He's shown that. But watching him fall back and operate in that pocket is something to watch IMO. Quick mind, quick reads and decision-making process. Yeah, Joe is kinda getting beat up his rookie season, but primarily because he, yet, doesn't have that "protective bubble" you mention the Ravens have, not because he's purposely throwing his body out there every week.

[Boston Red]

I think the Ravens tried to change things up a bit to protect Jackson this regular season and didn't let him do some of the things that made him the MVP last season. Probably a smart move for his longevity as long as they keep winning enough to make the playoffs. They are starting to free him up some (his running attempts/game are back up), and they can let him run wild in the postseason. Jackson was way underrated as a passer for some reason coming into the league (he's more than competent there and even with his numbers down he's still thrown 14 TDs vs. 5 picks), but he's obviously not an elite, superstar level player unless he's running the football pretty regularly, too.

[adkindo]

So, you may as well win the fight.

yeah, no need to hold back once the first punch was thrown....How big is Judge? Colombo is a big man.

[Boston Red]

Yeah, I think the offensive line coach is the last guy you want to get in a fight with. Those guys are generally huge, and typically a bit crazy.

[WrongVerb]

Kirkpatrick just cost the Cardinals a fourth down stop. Now Seattle scores a TD.

[KronoRed]

That was a fantastic drive, blatant intentional grounding then holding in the end zone for a safety.

[Reds Freak]

Kirkpatrick just cost the Cardinals a fourth down stop. Now Seattle scores a TD.

Cedric Ogbuehi also came in for Seattle due to an injury and I don't think has blocked anyone yet.

[Reds Freak]

And now Carlos Dunlap ends the game with a sack. Former Bengals all over this one.

[Kingspoint]

And now Carlos Dunlap ends the game with a sack. Former Bengals all over this one.

And Dunlap won the game all by himself after he injured Murray's throwing shoulder early in the game. Murray was unable to run the rest of the game for fear of getting tackled and injuring the shoulder further. He was also inaccurate badly because of the shoulder the rest of the game. Arizona would have scored 17 more points otherwise.

[WrongVerb]

CBS Sports HQ
@CBSSportsHQ

Most Wins First 9 Seasons of their Career in NFL History:

Russell Wilson 93
Peyton Manning 92
Tom Brady 87
Ben Roethlisberger 87
Russell Wilson, Seattle Seahawks, NC State Football, Wisconsin Football, Field Gulls, Dave “Softy” Mahler, Pete Carroll, Bob Condotta, 710 ESPN Seattle and Mike Salk, 710 ESPN
10:00am · 20 Nov 2020

[Reds Freak]

Pretty incredible stat. For some reason, the Seahawks have bored the crap out of me the last 10 years and I think I decided it's mainly their ridiculous uniforms. They'd be more watchable if they went back to the 80s and 90s versions.

[Kingspoint]

Love what I'm seeing from Romeo Crennel and DeShaun Watson.

[GAC]

Trying to watch this Browns Eagles game is like watching paint dry. Sorry Baker, but you missed two sure-fire touchdowns in this game already with simply bad passes that have to be made.

Eagles have one of the worst run defenses in the NFL, and so far they've shut the Brown's run game down.

[GAC]

And just like that the Baltimore Ravens are 6-4.

[Boston Red]

Cowboys are right back in the playoff hunt at 3-7 now! Lol

[Kingspoint]

Cowboys are right back in the playoff hunt at 3-7 now! Lol

They actually didn't look that bad. Their Defense was respectable.

Wentz is going to get run out of town by Philly fans after this last performance. He's beyond horrible. He is the NFL's worst Starting QB and worse than more than half the #2's.

[GAC]

Wentz is going to get run out of town by Philly fans after this last performance. He's beyond horrible. He is the NFL's worst Starting QB and worse than more than half the #2's.

What's happened with this guy? Is it because he's been getting the crap beat out of him for the last few years? We were without Garrett, and a lot of times only committing a 3-man rush, and getting to Wentz big time. Some of his kne-jerk decision-making yesterday was head shaking.

[GAC]

Loved this stiff-arm by the Brown'sw Chubb yesterday LOL

https://fb.watch/1XgYjCujl4/

[Kingspoint]

What's happened with this guy? Is it because he's been getting the crap beat out of him for the last few years? We were without Garrett, and a lot of times only committing a 3-man rush, and getting to Wentz big time. Some of his kne-jerk decision-making yesterday was head shaking.

Their Coach needs to come to his senses and start their 2nd Rd pick. He said if he did that he'd be telling his players that the season is over. What does he suppose he's telling them now?

[adkindo]

Mike Evans is a bad bad man....

[adkindo]

Brady's noodle arm has killed the Bucs all year....and the reason they will likely not be in the SuperBowl. I would take Winston any day over watching this man look like a high school Sophomore on any throw over 20 yards.

[adkindo]

refs blew that whistle too early...have to let that play out

[adkindo]

Tampa's losses this year....2x Saints, Bears and Rams. 3 of the elite defenses in the NFL.....Brady stinks when there is tight coverage, good pass rush, and without a big time running game. I will be happy when Arians, his terrible coordinators, and his QB get out of Tampa...

[RedTeamGo!]

Brady's noodle arm has killed the Bucs all year....and the reason they will likely not be in the SuperBowl. I would take Winston any day over watching this man look like a high school Sophomore on any throw over 20 yards.

Well, he’s like 72 years old. Not sure why people are surprised. If he could still sling it do people really think Belichek would have let him go?

[adkindo]

Well, he’s like 72 years old. Not sure why people are surprised. If he could still sling it do people really think Belichek would have let him go?

not sure, because he is still much better than anyone on the Patriots roster @ QB....and also part of it has to go on Arians/Leftwich as in why are they allowing him to have so many deep attempts? It is not like Bruce would bench him....but he also ensured he can't by having his little buddy Blaine Gabbert as the backup. Tom can't make the deep throw, but Brees can't either....but the Saints seem to work around the issue much better than the Bucs. As I pointed out earlier....give Brady a mediocre to bad defense, and he will carve them up....just can't handle the pressure or the tight windows that good defenses create.

Winston had his flaws, but he had a nice deep ball. I have seen him hit Evans in stride so many times in recent years.

[GAC]

Their Coach needs to come to his senses and start their 2nd Rd pick. He said if he did that he'd be telling his players that the season is over. What does he suppose he's telling them now?

But their offensive line is terrible! LOL

[Boston Red]

The Cowboys' S&C coordinator apparently collapsed at the team facility and is currently on life support. That's an awful situation.

[Kingspoint]

The Cowboys' S&C coordinator apparently collapsed at the team facility and is currently on life support. That's an awful situation.

Wow.

[Kingspoint]

From Rotoworld with Rotoworld comments:

Tom Brady is 0-for-19 on pass attempts of 20-plus yards over the past month. That's a 0.0 quarterback rating if you're counting at home. It's an area where the stats match the eye test, as Brady has been throwing one wounded dove after another whenever he ventures beyond the second level of the defense. Coach Bruce Arians has said Brady might be confused by the coverages, which, yikes. Despite decent overall statistics, Brady is beginning to look like a weak link on an otherwise dominant roster. Brady has made like Lazarus more than once in his career. He needs to now more than ever. The Chiefs are on deck for Week 12.

SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter


Bucs head coach Bruce Arians said Tom Brady might be getting confused by coverages, resulting in interceptions. Brady threw two picks against the Rams on Monday night, including a back breaker on Tampa's final drive. Arians has been less than subtle in his criticism of Brady this year. When asked about Brady's final interception against LA, Arians said, "Best to talk to him about it, I guess." Saying Brady is being confused by opposing defenses is quite the statement, though perhaps not unwarranted.

SOURCE: Greg Auman on Twitter


The mic is open.

[adkindo]

From Rotoworld with Rotoworld comments:

Tom Brady is 0-for-19 on pass attempts of 20-plus yards over the past month. That's a 0.0 quarterback rating if you're counting at home. It's an area where the stats match the eye test, as Brady has been throwing one wounded dove after another whenever he ventures beyond the second level of the defense. Coach Bruce Arians has said Brady might be confused by the coverages, which, yikes. Despite decent overall statistics, Brady is beginning to look like a weak link on an otherwise dominant roster. Brady has made like Lazarus more than once in his career. He needs to now more than ever. The Chiefs are on deck for Week 12.

SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter


Bucs head coach Bruce Arians said Tom Brady might be getting confused by coverages, resulting in interceptions. Brady threw two picks against the Rams on Monday night, including a back breaker on Tampa's final drive. Arians has been less than subtle in his criticism of Brady this year. When asked about Brady's final interception against LA, Arians said, "Best to talk to him about it, I guess." Saying Brady is being confused by opposing defenses is quite the statement, though perhaps not unwarranted.

SOURCE: Greg Auman on Twitter


The mic is open.

Dude needs to eat some red meat and lift a few weights. It is very clear that he is basically just chucking it in deep go routes. A guy with a strong arm throws the deep ball and the nose is very slightly tilted up as he releases the ball.....it flattens out at the apex...then the nose slightly tilts down on the descend. A guy with a weak arm attempts the same throw, and the ball comes out with the nose noticeably tilted up, it climbs to a much higher apex, but the nose of the ball does not begin to flatten and tilt down until it has already began to descend. It is basically throwing it towards the heavens hoping the resident answers a prayer.

[Kingspoint]

Dude needs to eat some red meat and lift a few weights. It is very clear that he is basically just chucking it in deep go routes. A guy with a strong arm throws the deep ball and the nose is very slightly tilted up as he releases the ball.....it flattens out at the apex...then the nose slightly tilts down on the descend. A guy with a weak arm attempts the same throw, and the ball comes out with the nose noticeably tilted up, it climbs to a much higher apex, but the nose of the ball does not begin to flatten and tilt down until it has already began to descend. It is basically throwing it towards the heavens hoping the resident answers a prayer.

There's spin rate on a football just like a baseball

[GAC]

He's 43 years old! and he's no George Blanda! LOL

[Boston Red]

No Turkey Night football. Ravens and Steelers is moving to Sunday.

[WVRed]

No Turkey Night football. Ravens and Steelers is moving to Sunday.

And the Steelers aren’t happy with it.

I kinda get it. They lose their mini bye week but anyone want to bet that once they lose early in the playoffs (and they will) that no rest and having to change their bye week will be the excuse given?

It is the Steelers after all.

[Kingspoint]

But their offensive line is terrible! LOL

Personnel involved with Wentz has nothing to do with his inablity to play QB in the NFL. Coaching, maybe. Personnel, no.

[GAC]

Personnel involved with Wentz has nothing to do with his inablity to play QB in the NFL. Coaching, maybe. Personnel, no.

Certainly not blaming all of Wentz' issues on a bad offensive line. But a bad offensive line certainly complicates things and makes it harder on any QB, good or bad. I wasn't high on Wentz when he was the #1 draft pick, skeptical, and yes, it was because he played for a small school in N. Dakota State, and the Missouri Valley Conference. What was the level of the competition he faced? But a lot were saying that didn't matter because he had all the physical qualities to be a solid NFL QB, and made comparisons to Big Ben who played for Miami out of the MAC conference. Carson Wentz is no Ben Roethlisberger (lol).

Interesting read. He's been in the league 5 years, and has had three major injuries, each about a year apart. How healthy is he? https://www.inquirer.com/eagles/philadelphia-eagles-carson-wentz-concussion-andrew-brandt-20201124.html

[Kingspoint]

And Foles won the Super Bowl, not Wentz.

[WrongVerb]

Say what you will about Taylor, he's never called for a fake punt on 4th & 10 from his team's own 20.

[Kingspoint]

Say what you will about Taylor, he's never called for a fake punt on 4th & 10 from his team's own 20.

:)

[WrongVerb]

:)

You know what I'm talking about. Lol

[WVRed]

Lamar Jackson tests positive, out for Sunday.

[Todd Gack]

Lamar Jackson tests positive, out for Sunday.

HEY! A Lamar Jackson post in the Tavern!!!!!

[Kingspoint]

You know what I'm talking about. Lol

When I saw your post I was in the garage with tbe outdoor cat on my lap listening to the game on the radio and texting with my best friend who was lamenting how crappy Mike McCarthy is at play-calling (he's a Cowboys fan). Had to copy your post and send it to him.

He posts back, "...and he's done it before this season."

The radio announcers were hammering on about the non-sensical play-calling of McCarthy.

...and people wonder why Rodgers couldn't get rid of him soon enough. Rodgers would have three Super Bowls or more and Brady three or less if McCarthy hadn't been Rodgers' Coach. He rode the coattails of Favre and Rodgers to everything he's been given credit for in the NFL. He's earned none of it himself.

[GAC]

Lamar Jackson tests positive, out for Sunday.

I'm beginning to wonder if this game gets played Sunday with a least a dozen Raven players, including your MVP QB, testing positive this past week. I certainly can see the Ravens wanting it if Jackson is out and huge play-off implications involved. At least postponed. If not, RGIII will be the starting QB for the next two games. I didn't even know he was still playing (lol). I thought his stint in Cleveland put the nail in that coffin.

Two bad knees vs Pitt's defensive front?

[RichRed]

My WFT swept the Cowboys this year by a combined score of 66-19. Today, I give thanks to Mike McCarthy for his generosity.

[adkindo]

My WFT swept the Cowboys this year by a combined score of 66-19. Today, I give thanks to Mike McCarthy for his generosity.

after that fake punt mess on 4th and 9, I almost wondered if McCarthy is trying to get fired....or improve their draft pick.

[Chip R]

Bucs head coach Bruce Arians said Tom Brady might be getting confused by coverages, resulting in interceptions. Brady threw two picks against the Rams on Monday night, including a back breaker on Tampa's final drive. Arians has been less than subtle in his criticism of Brady this year. When asked about Brady's final interception against LA, Arians said, "Best to talk to him about it, I guess." Saying Brady is being confused by opposing defenses is quite the statement, though perhaps not unwarranted.

SOURCE: Greg Auman on Twitter


The mic is open.

Brady's been around for 20 years and won several Super Bowls and came up short in a couple and now he's getting confused by coverages?

[RichRed]

after that fake punt mess on 4th and 9, I almost wondered if McCarthy is trying to get fired....or improve their draft pick.

I know the final score looked like a blowout, but if not for that fake punt and McLaurin running down Jaylon Smith after the INT, it could’ve been a very different game. Two huge plays that swung the momentum in WFT’s favor.


https://youtu.be/yEBnDvWVA78

[WVRed]

I'm beginning to wonder if this game gets played Sunday with a least a dozen Raven players, including your MVP QB, testing positive this past week. I certainly can see the Ravens wanting it if Jackson is out and huge play-off implications involved. At least postponed. If not, RGIII will be the starting QB for the next two games. I didn't even know he was still playing (lol). I thought his stint in Cleveland put the nail in that coffin.

Two bad knees vs Pitt's defensive front?

Moved to Tuesday night.

[ScotlandRed]

So Lamar tests + on the day the Ravens were meant to play Steelers. Wonder if the Steelers players are still crying like little *****es about the NFL moving their game instead of exposing them to COVID?

[WVRed]

COVID starting to hit the Steelers. Stephon Tuitt announced yesterday and James Conner (a cancer survivor) today.

[KoryMac5]

Detroit cleans house...Patricia and Quinn fired

[ScotlandRed]

COVID starting to hit the Steelers. Stephon Tuitt announced yesterday and James Conner (a cancer survivor) today.

James Connner, a really really humble guy, he hates talking about his past troubles, he just wants to play football, so every time he gets the ball, we’re gonna talk about his past troubles and his illness. It’s super weird from announcers.

[WVRed]

Detroit cleans house...Patricia and Quinn fired

I’m calling it, Harbaugh to the Lions.

[Kingspoint]

All three remaining Broncos QB's sent home today by the NFL after they viewed film and deemed them to close of contact to COVID recipient Jeff Driskel.

So DEN plays tomorrow's game without a QB?

[ScotlandRed]

All three remaining Broncos QB's sent home today by the NFL after they viewed film and deemed them to close of contact to COVID recipient Jeff Driskel.

So DEN plays tomorrow's game without a QB?

Rumours their RB is going to start at QB.

[WrongVerb]

Rumours their RB is going to start at QB.

What they're just going to go wildcat the whole game?

[Assembly Hall]

Rumours their RB is going to start at QB.

I heard Vaughn Miller?

[CTA513]

All three remaining Broncos QB's sent home today by the NFL after they viewed film and deemed them to close of contact to COVID recipient Jeff Driskel.

So DEN plays tomorrow's game without a QB?

Did they not give them the option of moving the game like they have with other games?
That would be kind of crappy if they didn't.

[KronoRed]

Time to run the triple option.

[Chip R]

Time to run the triple option.

That's no offense to run with a neophyte QB. QB carries the ball a lot in that offense and if he gets hurt, they are really screwed.

Saw a rumor today that all pre-Super Bowl events will be officially canceled soon by the NFL., maybe as early as this week The two teams playing in the Super Bowl will fly into Tampa on Saturday night to play the game the next day on Sunday.

[JaxRed]

NFL making an example of Denver. They specified in the rules that a positional shortage wouldn't cancel a game. They gave them 6 extra players on the practice squad. All Blake Bortles had to do to start another NFL game was wear a mask to meetings.

So you can bet other teams are going to do a lot better job of keeping practice squad guys separate from the regulars squad.

Should be interesting.

[GAC]

Did they not give them the option of moving the game like they have with other games?
That would be kind of crappy if they didn't.

Yep. Did it for the Pitt-Raven game how many times now?

[adkindo]

Rumours their RB is going to start at QB.

I thought it was a receiver from the practice squad that originally played QB in college?

- - - Updated - - -

Sources: Philadelphia Eagles rookie Jalen Hurts getting first-team reps at QB (https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/30412550/sources-philadelphia-eagles-rookie-jalen-hurts-getting-first-team-reps-qb)

[JaxRed]

More on the League making an example of Denver. According to Adam Shefter, the league has turned down repeated requests to move the game to Tuesday, They also turned down Denver who wanted to add their Offensive Quality Control coach Rob Calabrese as a player to play QB. The league doesn't want teams stashing players as "coaches".

Says they will eventually take away a draft pick and fine the Broncos.

[JaxRed]

Ian Rapaport says league looking into creating "local Bubbles" for playoffs.

[GAC]

The officiating crew in this Browns Jaguars game sucks!

[RedTeamGo!]

The officiating crew in this Browns Jaguars game sucks!

This has been insane.

[RedTeamGo!]

This is just absolutely insane. They called a weak hold on Tretter WHILE the Jaguars play fully extended his leg and tripped Nick Chubb.

WHAT

IS

GOING

ON

????

[WrongVerb]

Carolina’s Chinn scores twice on fumble returns (https://www.wspa.com/sports/carolina-panthers/carolinas-chinn-scores-twice-on-fumble-returns/)

Is that what's known as a double Chinn?

[adkindo]

ok, so Romo's sole purpose today is to make excuses for Brady and place blame on everyone else? I never have got why this guy is considered by so many one of the best analyst in the booth.

[JaxRed]

You have to understand NFL officiating has always been designed to hurt the Jags. The Jags winning now really messes up their chances of getting Trevor Lawrence, so officials are helping them.

[WVRed]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20201129/3aaca3462f544b076c3bfee594e6750f.jpg
Seems legit.

[WVRed]

Jaguars fire Dave Caldwell.

Know there’s some Jaguars fans on here who I’m sure are very happy with this news.

[Kingspoint]

ok, so Romo's sole purpose today is to make excuses for Brady and place blame on everyone else? I never have got why this guy is considered by so many one of the best analyst in the booth.

Because (nearly) everything he says is 100% accurate. I can look past his attempt to temper the worldly view that Brady has a weak arm now, being a fellow QB HOFer. Nobody's perfect, but Aikman nearly is as an announcer. He let his emotions and fondness of a player interfere with his usual flawless unbiased reporting and coverage.

There's never been anyone better in the history of NFL television broadcasting.

[kaldaniels]

Because (nearly) everything he says is 100% accurate. I can look past his attempt to temper the worldly view that Brady has a weak arm now, being a fellow QB HOFer. Nobody's perfect, but Aikman nearly is as an announcer. He let his emotions and fondness of a player interfere with his usual flawless unbiased reporting and coverage.

There's never been anyone better in the history of NFL television broadcasting.

Curious - was the segue to Aikman intentional or a mistype?

[adkindo]

Because (nearly) everything he says is 100% accurate. I can look past his attempt to temper the worldly view that Brady has a weak arm now, being a fellow QB HOFer. Nobody's perfect, but Aikman nearly is as an announcer. He let his emotions and fondness of a player interfere with his usual flawless unbiased reporting and coverage.

There's never been anyone better in the history of NFL television broadcasting.

my god, what are you even talking about?

[Kingspoint]

Curious - was the segue to Aikman intentional or a mistype?

Both. Though I heard Romo's lovefest with Brady that he was talking about, I didn't watch the whole game and was busy doing a million other things. When you've been watching the Cowboys for as long as I have all of the QB's go into one databank and one can be easily replaced with another.

While I really enjoy Romo's play-calling, I was talking about Aikman. He's the best I've ever heard doing it and this goes all the way back to the '60's. He's polished as a broadcaster. Romo is not. When listening to Romo it's like hearing a guy at the barstool talk about the game who has a ton of knowledge, but it's still a guy who is on his 6th beer of the day. While many others have been as polished as Aikman, none have had his intelligence about the game or done the amount of studying that he does about the game. It's obvious that Aikman still spends 40 hours a week at the minimum just studying the NFL, in addition to the work he puts in professionally as a broadcast journalist.

I'm glad it was Romo and not Aikman as I couldn't see Aikman doing that. He surely knows that Brady's arm is weak and wouldn't say the things that Romo was saying (and right after one of his praises of Brady, Tom Brady misses a Receiver by 10 yards downfield). He hit a few later in the game, but that was all garbage time. Doesn't mean the same.

[GAC]

I'm about as sick of seeing Romo's mug as I have been with Peyton's. Enough! LOL

[Bob Sheed]

I think Romo and Nance are a better combo, although Aikman is far superior to Nance (and Romo) as a broadcaster.

[dubc47834]

Yep. Did it for the Pitt-Raven game how many times now?

Different scenario!

[Kingspoint]

Guess who's getting fired tomorrow morning?

Philly's Coach for playing Jake Luton only two plays, one play on two different series, and having him hand the ball off. Clearly, it was "suggested" that he play him. This response was insubordination and something you always get fired for same day, if not the next.

[Kingspoint]

Different scenario!

Let's just move the entire NFL season around to suit the Steelers.

[adkindo]

I find it amusing that the national media is just now calling out Arians for blaming everything on Brady or other players....as if this is new. The media did not seem to have an issue when he constantly refused any accountability last season and used Winston as a scapegoat. I recall a couple articles would point out that Winston's interceptions were not that out of line with the rest of the league when you took into account how many deep balls he was asked to throw compared to the rest of the league....but most of the media just carried the water for Arians because he was "cool" and Winston was easy to dislike. I am not suggesting Winston did not deserve a decent portion of the blame for his mistakes, only that Brady is not the first QB that Arians has used as a shield against criticism.

For the record, I could not stand Koetter...and if I am being honest have not really embraced a Bucs coach since Gruden. Still, I began to notice that Arians has a massive ego issue last season. I am not sure if this has always been the deal with Arians, or if it just began when he returned to the NFL with the Bucs....but it is kind of a sad look.

[Kingspoint]

I find it amusing that the national media is just now calling out Arians for blaming everything on Brady or other players....as if this is new. The media did not seem to have an issue when he constantly refused any accountability last season and used Winston as a scapegoat. I recall a couple articles would point out that Winston's interceptions were not that out of line with the rest of the league when you took into account how many deep balls he was asked to throw compared to the rest of the league....but most of the media just carried the water for Arians because he was "cool" and Winston was easy to dislike. I am not suggesting Winston did not deserve a decent portion of the blame for his mistakes, only that Brady is not the first QB that Arians has used as a shield against criticism.

For the record, I could not stand Koetter...and if I am being honest have not really embraced a Bucs coach since Gruden. Still, I began to notice that Arians has a massive ego issue last season. I am not sure if this has always been the deal with Arians, or if it just began when he returned to the NFL with the Bucs....but it is kind of a sad look.

He put great Defenses together in Pittsburgh, and especially, Arizona. His Offenses were horrendous, though Carson Palmer could have been decent there had Arians paid any attention whatsoever to the Offensive Line. He's clueless on Offense, but superb on Defense.

[JaxRed]

Hopefully the offensive funk in Tampa puts the damper on any Leftwich as head coach talk. Last thing I want to see in Jax.

[Kingspoint]

From Rotoworld with Rotoworld comments:

Carson Wentz this season has had one of the biggest passer rating drop-offs in NFL history. Wentz in 2020 is the sixth quarterback in league history whose passer rating has dropped more than 24 points below his combined rate over the past three seasons. He's the only QB on that list younger than 30. Other signal callers on the ignominious list: Mark Rypien in 1993, Joe Theismann in 1985, Peyton Manning in his statistically disastrous 2015 season, and Brett Favre in 2010. The main difference, of course, is that Manning and Favre were on the tail ends of their Hall of Fame careers, having fallen off the proverbial cliff. Wentz is 28 years old. He's completed 58.1 percent of his passes this year while throwing an NFL-leading 15 interceptions. His mega contract almost guarantees the Eagles are stuck with the declining QB for the next season or two.

SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

Jalen Hurts played two snaps in Week 13 against the Seahawks, completing his only pass attempt for six yards. So much for that. NFL Network's Ian Rapoport said Hurts was practicing as the team's QB without Carson Wentz on the field in preparation for Week 13 -- a change from how Hurts has been utilized this season. Wentz was on the field for one of Hurts' two snaps. Eagles head coach Doug Peterson pretends to be confused by questions about benching Wentz for Hurts -- he's either in denial about Wentz's regression or he's confident Hurts would be far worse as the team's quarterback

[WVRed]

He put great Defenses together in Pittsburgh, and especially, Arizona. His Offenses were horrendous, though Carson Palmer could have been decent there had Arians paid any attention whatsoever to the Offensive Line. He's clueless on Offense, but superb on Defense.

Kind of a modern day Brian Billick.

I’m assuming you meant Indianapolis when he was the interim for Pagano. Arians was offensive coordinator for the Steelers and had no say on the rest of the team.

[KronoRed]

Using your middle name for your burner account is amateurish

https://fansided.com/2020/12/01/lions-think-found-matt-patricias-burner-account/

[Chip R]

There is a report out there that the Ravens were going to strike if the Steelers game wasn't moved to Wednesday.

[phatknuckle]

Let's just move the entire NFL season around to suit the Steelers.

I don't think any of the scheduling changes in this game were to suit the Steelers. My understanding it was all about the Ravens.

[phatknuckle]

He put great Defenses together in Pittsburgh, and especially, Arizona. His Offenses were horrendous, though Carson Palmer could have been decent there had Arians paid any attention whatsoever to the Offensive Line. He's clueless on Offense, but superb on Defense.

Arians came up as an offensive coach and was offensive coordinator for the Steelers. He never 'built' their defense. His biggest issue has always been that his play calling puts quarterbacks at risk by featuring slow developing routes.

[dubc47834]

There is a report out there that the Ravens were going to strike if the Steelers game wasn't moved to Wednesday.

Why would they strike? They were the team with the outbreak, the Steelers should be the team that is ticked off here, not the Ravens. Actually the team that needs to be ticked off is the Bronco's!

[kaldaniels]

Why would they strike? They were the team with the outbreak, the Steelers should be the team that is ticked off here, not the Ravens. Actually the team that needs to be ticked off is the Bronco's!

Why should the Broncos be mad?

Their QBs flouted the mask rules and it hurt the team. The team COVID cases didn’t meet the criteria to postpone the game. Oh, you wanted an exception for them I suppose?

[oregonred]

The NFL seems hellbent on getting the Steelers/Ravens in today for sham game #2 of the week...

The teams that were penalized were the other NFC playoff contenders that watched the current #1 seeded Saints get handed a free road win

[Boston Red]

Everyone in my survivor pool who didn't still have the Saints available also got penalized, but it turned out to only be some extra stress as all the favorites won (unfortunately).

[dubc47834]

Why should the Broncos be mad?

Their QBs flouted the mask rules and it hurt the team. The team COVID cases didn’t meet the criteria to postpone the game. Oh, you wanted an exception for them I suppose?

Dang bro...I don't care one way or the other about the Broncos. If there was a team that should be upset it is them tho. I understand it was their own QB's fault, but I highly doubt that if a bottom dwelling team was in the same boat as the Ravens, this game wouldn't have been moved 3 times. Someone would have been forfeiting!

[redsfandan]

I don't think any of the scheduling changes in this game were to suit the Steelers. My understanding it was all about the Ravens.

My understanding is that it's mostly to suit the NFL. College games are getting cancelled left and right but the NFL won't even consider doing it. Gotta wonder what they'll do if a playoff team has an outbreak next month.

[Boston Red]

RG III is doing a pretty good Lamar impression with his feet. Keeping it interesting.

[Boston Red]

I'm just following the play by play on my computer....but what Baltimore did there at the end of the half seems exceptionally stupid.

[Reds Freak]

I'm just following the play by play on my computer....but what Baltimore did there are the end of the half seems exceptionally stupid.

I know this will be a surprise to all, but the referees gave the Steelers an early Christmas gift by not stopping the clock or calling a delay of game as the Steelers played dead on top of the Ravens ball carrier on second down. They let 20 seconds run off the clock to spot the ball.

[Boston Red]

I can feel the ugly on this game through the ESPN Gamecast.

[Kingspoint]

From Rotoworld with Rotoworld comments:

The Philadelphia Inquirer reports Eagles coach Doug Pederson is no longer calling every play on offense and could give up more responsibility moving forward. Per reporter Jeff McLane, Pederson has "handed the reins over" to passing game coordinator Press Taylor "several times in recent games." Pederson could give Taylor "more responsibility starting Sunday in Green Bay." Senior offensive assistant Rich Scangarello has apparently also been calling some plays in two-minute situations since the beginning of the season. 32-year-old Taylor had previously never called plays "at any level." The play-calling hasn't exactly been stellar for the Eagles, but offensive line woes and Carson Wentz's struggles remain bigger issues. This is unlikely to spark a renaissance for the final five games of the season.

SOURCE: Philadelphia Inquirer

[Kingspoint]

Jacksonville, Miami, Cincinnati all doing well as underdogs. Cincinnati would be up by 10 if they weren't getting totally screwed by the refs.

[Kingspoint]

King Felix and Junior shutting out the Mets, 5-0.

[WrongVerb]

The New England punt returner has gained more yards than the San Diego Chargers.

[Kingspoint]

From Rotoworld with Rotoworld comments:

Jets fired defensive coordinator Gregg Williams. The team had no choice but to part ways with Williams after one of the most egregious defensive play calls in league history. The Jets, up by four points with seconds to play, sent seven pass rushers, leaving New York defensive backs in man coverage against Vegas receivers. Henry Ruggs III came down with a 46-yard touchdown to win the game. Williams' play call was baffling in every way, and has drawn the ire of NFL analysts unlike any call in memory. Accusations of the Jets tanking for Clemson QB Trevor Lawrence can be quickly dismissed with the firing of Williams.

RELATED: New York Jets


As one poster said, it was Bengalesque, with the result being and immediate firing, which is non-bengalesque.

[WVRed]

Don’t look now but Pittsburgh is about to lose to Washington.

And the crying about playing 3 games in 12 days has started.

[Roy Tucker]

It took me to the 3rd quarter to realize the end zone at the Buffalo-San Francisco game said Arizona.

[Kingspoint]

It took me to the 3rd quarter to realize the end zone at the Buffalo-San Francisco game said Arizona.

It took me until I read this post.

[Boston Red]

The Cowboys are currently jealous of the Bengals's comparitively competent organization.

[Bob Sheed]

The Cowboys are currently jealous of the Bengals's comparitively competent organization.

A Bengals comparison is the NFL equivalent of a Hitler comparison in politics.

Anyone approaching the Bengals level of futility, at worst, does so on a temporary basis.

30 years.

And counting.

[Hillsdale87]

A Bengals comparison is the NFL equivalent of a Hitler comparison in politics.

Anyone approaching the Bengals level of futility, at worst, does so on a temporary basis.

30 years.

And counting.

The Bengals have been more successful than the Cowboys the last 25 years


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[Bob Sheed]

The Bengals have been more successful than the Cowboys the last 25 years


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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dallas_Cowboys_seasons

No way.

Since Mike Brown assumed full control of the Bengals in 1990, it's not even close.

But ok... Let's skip all those Cowboys Super Bowls and just work with the past 25 years. the Cowboys have still won 4 playoff games to the Bengals 0.

Heck, just in the past 10 years they have won 2 playoff games. (Again, Bengals 0.)

Trying to compare other teams' futility to the Mike Brown's futility is like comparing catchers to Johnny Bench.

[Hillsdale87]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Dallas_Cowboys_seasons

No way.

Since Mike Brown assumed full control of the Bengals in 1990, it's not even close.

But ok... Let's skip all those Cowboys Super Bowls and just work with the past 25 years. the Cowboys have still won 4 playoff games to the Bengals 0.

Heck, just in the past 10 years they have won 2 playoff games. (Again, Bengals 0.)

Trying to compare other teams' futility to the Mike Brown's futility is like comparing catchers to Johnny Bench.

I would say the franchises have been about the same. Cowboys have more playoff wins, Bengals were more consistently good recently. The Bengals have been a bad franchise in a boring way, the Cowboys have been a bad franchise in the most chaotic way.