Offense is easier to come by than pitching. $7M and tying up a spot on the 40-man for an unproven player just seems foolish. I guess that is where we are headed, but I'm having a hard time wrapping my mind around that.Originally Posted by Falls City Beer
Last edited by RedsFanInBama; 08-14-2008 at 11:08 AM.
Supposedly $2.6 million, which I thought was going to give the Reds a lot more leverage, but after the signings today, now I'm not so sure.
The Reds have spent an enormous amount of money this year on the draft and International talent, and I love it. I hope they start doing this every year in order to keep the farm system well stocked. So far in the past few months the Reds have signed 16-year old Juan Duran for $2 million, 16-year old Junior Arias for $300,000, are rumored to have a deal in place for Yorman Rodriguez, a 16-year old Venezuelan rumored to be seeking around $3 million. In addition to that they've spent $1-2 more million on lesser Latin talent. That doesn't even include the draft: Second rounder Zach Stewart signed for $450,000 and they just gave $500,000 to their 30th round pick Juan Carlos Sulbaran. Let's just assume Alonso signs for $4 million dollars, that would put the Reds around roughly $10 million spent on the draft plus around $6.5 to 7 million spent on International signings, and who knows, that number could grow larger because Jocketty just returned from the Dominican Republic on a scouting trip and may have signed more players. We're looking at roughly $17 million dollars spent on the draft and International signings so far. That's gotta be in the top two or three in the majors.
Do you think there is any possible way that happens? I can't see him signing for less than 6.5, particularly with the Posey deal coming down the pipeline today.
I'm with you. Kind of ironic that Gordon Beckham proved reasonable as so many here wanted him.
I'd put $3M on the table for Alonso and leave it at that. Either he signs or he doesn't. Makes me no nevermind. I already don't miss him and I've got zero interest in seeing the team explode its spending ceiling for a 1B.
I'm not a system player. I am a system.
Would you give him a 40 man spot too?
Absolutely. I think the Reds don't sign Alonso. I'm not sorry about it or bitter or angry either. I'll take two top ten picks next year.
Alonso told John Fay that if he didn't sign with the Reds, he would sign with an Independent League team while he leeches off of A-Rod for a year.
Well, hopefully one of those two top 10 picks next year is a college bat that is a year or two away from the show.
I don't feel like waiting until 2013 for one of those picks to make impact. We are already on year 9 of a never ending rebuilding plan.
He is dumber than I thought then.
Draft picks are never a good quick fix idea, though. I always look at draft picks as 3-5 years down the road. Anything quicker than that is either really lucky or really Ryan Wagner dumb.
Hmm, theoretically a college 1B taken with a high pick should progress quickly to the majors (inside of two years). If you don't think he can do that then there's no reason to pick the kid that high.
So putting him on the 40-man shouldn't be an issue, provided the team actually believes he'll have a short minor league career.
I'm not a system player. I am a system.
That's not the way I was looking at Yonder Alonso. I thought he was 1-2 years away (Sept 2009 to April-June 2010). Unfortunately, it looks like we have one less asset now for that timeframe.
I just think if you miss out on a 1st round pick one year, that a HS arm would be the worst way to go the next. Just give me one of the top college bats (Smoak, Posey, etc.) with at least one of those picks and I'll be happy.
Exactly, but I wonder if he gets the money he wants why being on the 40-man roster is that important. Does it speed up the whole arb/free agent clock?
Beckham was a good college bat that won't take long to progress, but I guess he doesn't project to have the wood bat power of some other guys in the draft. Still made sense. Oh well...
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