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    Re: 2025 Cincinnati Bengals Part 3: Can the Defense Get a Stop?

    Dugger should be fine as a third safety. I'd be concerned if he was signed to start but he should just be depth. He shouldn't prevent the Bengals from taking Downs if he is at 10 (although I don't think they'd take a safety that high) but at least he should keep them from reaching for a safety in the first two days out of pure necessity.

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    Re: 2025 Cincinnati Bengals Part 3: Can the Defense Get a Stop?

    Quote Originally Posted by RiverRat13 View Post
    Dugger should be fine as a third safety. I'd be concerned if he was signed to start but he should just be depth. He shouldn't prevent the Bengals from taking Downs if he is at 10 (although I don't think they'd take a safety that high) but at least he should keep them from reaching for a safety in the first two days out of pure necessity.
    Im just wondering if they are operating under thr assumption that Downs will be off the board by 10.

    If he isn't then fans obviously aren't going to be happy, especially if they take a CB instead.

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    Dugger had a pick six against us and Tobin mostly scouts by watching Bengals games I think.
    sigh. Gotta love those cincy teams. Operate on a shoestring budget and call it big league.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    Im just wondering if they are operating under thr assumption that Downs will be off the board by 10.

    If he isn't then fans obviously aren't going to be happy, especially if they take a CB instead.

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    I'd be pleasantly surprised if they took Downs over a corner. I don't see it happening unless both McCoy and Delane are gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfs View Post
    sigh. Gotta love those cincy teams. Operate on a shoestring budget and call it big league.
    While not arguing that. I don’t think this is a bad signing. For depth and could still start and not be Geno Stone. Winning!!

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    2025 Cincinnati Bengals Part 3: Can the Defense Get a Stop?

    I don’t care how good of a corner you are, without a pass rush you are toast. There are a few shutdown corners who can cover a guy a bit longer, but not many.

    Knowing these clowns, they’ll pick a corner, not properly address the pass rush and the new stud corner will get burnt repeatedly


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    Re: 2025 Cincinnati Bengals Part 3: Can the Defense Get a Stop?

    Quote Originally Posted by LiferJim View Post
    I don’t care how good of a corner you are, without a pass rush you are toast. There are a few shutdown corners who can cover a guy a bit longer, but not many.

    Knowing these clowns, they’ll pick a corner, not properly address the pass rush and the new stud corner will get burnt repeatedly


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    If Bailey and Bain are gone at ten, which is possible, if not likely, who are you then taking to address the pass rush?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiferJim View Post
    I don’t care how good of a corner you are, without a pass rush you are toast. There are a few shutdown corners who can cover a guy a bit longer, but not many.

    Knowing these clowns, they’ll pick a corner, not properly address the pass rush and the new stud corner will get burnt repeatedly


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    Like was said below both those guys would be gone and there just is not any other guys that are worth that pick. You could always pick up a Cam Jordan. Both corners I would take because they are both shut down corners. I know you don’t want to reach like they did on Stewart. Just because he was a need. It makes zero sense if they don’t come away with a premium player and settle for a Faulk because he plays a certain position.
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    Re: 2025 Cincinnati Bengals Part 3: Can the Defense Get a Stop?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boss-Hog View Post
    If Bailey and Bain are gone at ten, which is possible, if not likely, who are you then taking to address the pass rush?
    Probably going corner and hoping Akheem Mesidor or Casshius Howell are there in the second.

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    Re: 2025 Cincinnati Bengals Part 3: Can the Defense Get a Stop?

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    Probably going corner and hoping Akheem Mesidor or Casshius Howell are there in the second.

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    I doubt Mesidor will be there in the second; I'm not certain about Howell, but those seem more like mid to late first round players than guys that will be there at 41. There should be some decent edge options there for the Bengals in the second if they don't take one in round one, though.

    I took Jim's post to mean he'd take a pass rusher in the first no matter what, so I was curious who he was taking if Bailey and Bain are gone by the Bengals' pick.

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    Re: 2025 Cincinnati Bengals Part 3: Can the Defense Get a Stop?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boss-Hog View Post
    I doubt Mesidor will be there in the second; I'm not certain about Howell, but those seem more like mid to late first round players than guys that will be there at 41. There should be some decent edge options there for the Bengals in the second if they don't take one in round one, though.

    I took Jim's post to mean he's taking a pass rusher in the first no matter what, so I was curious who he was taking if Bailey and Bain are gone by the Bengals' pick.
    One mock i saw had both of them in the second.

    Keldrick Faulk would probably be the other first round option and that would be a reach.

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    Re: 2025 Cincinnati Bengals Part 3: Can the Defense Get a Stop?

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    One mock i saw had both of them in the second.

    Keldrick Faulk would probably be the other first round option and that would be a reach.

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    Faulk definitely seems like the next edge up after Bailey and Bain (I'm intentionally not even mentioning Reese since he'll almost certainly be gone) and one I want no part of, though I'm sure the Bengals would be interested.

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    Re: 2025 Cincinnati Bengals Part 3: Can the Defense Get a Stop?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boss-Hog View Post
    If Bailey and Bain are gone at ten, which is possible, if not likely, who are you then taking to address the pass rush?
    I’d be looking to trade down, to get at least one additional pick and looking to add Faulk or Mesidor later in the first round. I’m not sure if there would be any takers though, as I haven’t looked closely at the needs of the teams picking behind the Bengals.


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    Re: 2025 Cincinnati Bengals Part 3: Can the Defense Get a Stop?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boss-Hog View Post
    If Bailey and Bain are gone at ten, which is possible, if not likely, who are you then taking to address the pass rush?
    Some time ago I posted that I thought the bengals board looked something like Reese, Bailey Styles, Bain, Downs, Delane.

    With his workout this week I would add McCoy.
    With the recent DB signing I think the order now would be something like Reese, Bailey, Styles, Bain, and then the three defensive backs.

    They pick at 10. I guess it's possible that 7 defensive players go in the first 9, but that seems unlikely so they should be able to get one of those guys. I think a trade down is very unlikely.

    The goal of free agency was to get to the point where they could select BPA. Well, the D was so weak that they didn't quite get to BPA, but I think they did shore things up to the point where they can take the best defensive player available. It would not shock me at all if that three of their first four picks are Edge, LB, DB in some order.
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    Re: 2025 Cincinnati Bengals Part 3: Can the Defense Get a Stop?

    Quote Originally Posted by dfs View Post
    Some time ago I posted that I thought the bengals board looked something like Reese, Bailey Styles, Bain, Downs, Delane.

    With his workout this week I would add McCoy.
    With the recent DB signing I think the order now would be something like Reese, Bailey, Styles, Bain, and then the three defensive backs.

    They pick at 10. I guess it's possible that 7 defensive players go in the first 9, but that seems unlikely so they should be able to get one of those guys. I think a trade down is very unlikely.

    The goal of free agency was to get to the point where they could select BPA. Well, the D was so weak that they didn't quite get to BPA, but I think they did shore things up to the point where they can take the best defensive player available. It would not shock me at all if that three of their first four picks are Edge, LB, DB in some order.
    Good post; I suspect the CBs with playing a premium position, especially after McCoy's testing this week, are higher in their pecking order than at least some of your list, such as Styles and Downs.

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