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gedred69 · 10-30-2007, 08:05 PM

And another thing. we keep talking about Bruce, and then Stubbs, and continue to omit Dan Dorn. This guy did Billings with Stubbs, skipped low A right to high A where he did Okay, got promoted to AA and turned it up several notches. Why does he stay under the radar? Am I missing some info?

OnBaseMachine · 10-30-2007, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Superdude

Travis Wood. I predict he comes back healthy, dominates the FSL for a month or so, and then does much of the same in AA to claim the title of the next sweet Reds pitching prospect.

Agreed. Good choice.

Blue · 10-30-2007, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by gedred69

And another thing. we keep talking about Bruce, and then Stubbs, and continue to omit Dan Dorn. This guy did Billings with Stubbs, skipped low A right to high A where he did Okay, got promoted to AA and turned it up several notches. Why does he stay under the radar? Am I missing some info?

No. He's a good bet to be on everyone's radar mid way through this season.

camisadelgolf · 10-31-2007, 05:50 AM

My obvious choice is Josh Roenicke, but you could argue that he already had his breakout year. If you don't count him, I think this is the year Justin Reed puts it all together. My sleeper picks include Carlos Mendez, Brandon Menchaca, Angel Cabrera, Jordan Wideman, and Juan Rafael.

mth123 · 11-01-2007, 02:33 AM

Carlos Fisher was my man last year and I'm sticking with him. The board is a lot more aware of him now and maybe he no longer qualifies, but I expect him to get it together with an offseason to rest his arm, dominate AA for a few weeks, pitch well at AAA and at some point make an appearance in Cincy. He may end up as a pen guy or hopefully has the goods for a number 4 rotation spot, but I'm guessing he appears in Cincy by the end of 2008.

My second choice is way off the board and that is Ben Jukich. I've been critical of WK in the past, but he does have a scouting ability to find guys who are completely off the radar just before they are ready to step forward. Jared Burton is a good example. I think WK acquired Jukich for a reason and Jukich put together a pretty good run after a rocky start in the organization. Its possible (likely) that its just a guy with pedestrian stuff fooling younger hitters at a level that was low for his age, but I'm guessing WK knows something.

How is that for some faith in the GM from one of his critics?

Topcat · 11-01-2007, 03:10 AM

Derrick Lutz is my Candidate and yes he is my adopted propsect so I am Bias but I just see him moving up fast.

dougdirt · 11-01-2007, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Topcat

Derrick Lutz is my Candidate and yes he is my adopted propsect so I am Bias but I just see him moving up fast.

I don't think it makes you biased at all.... he is a real good pick. He could be a fast mover next season with success.

texasdave · 11-01-2007, 09:58 AM

The player that I am hoping breaks out in a big way in 2008 is Devin Mesoraco, because he showed nothing at all in his first go-round. I understand that the first half season can be rough on players, but a .580 OPS is not exactly a confidence builder.

dougdirt · 11-01-2007, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by texasdave

The player that I am hoping breaks out in a big way in 2008 is Devin Mesoraco, because he showed nothing at all in his first go-round. I understand that the first half season can be rough on players, but a .580 OPS is not exactly a confidence builder.

Defensively the reports were very good on him. He also was hitting with two injured thumbs..... not the easiest thing to do. I just hope he shows up healthy in February.

M2 · 11-01-2007, 12:10 PM

I'll go with Luis Montano (over Justin Reed). Though I think Todd Frazier's the guy who's going to be grabbing the most headlines.

dougdirt · 11-01-2007, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by M2

I'll go with Luis Montano (over Justin Reed). Though I think Todd Frazier's the guy who's going to be grabbing the most headlines.

I just hope he isn't grabbing them in Dayton, although I fear that is what will happen.....

M2 · 11-01-2007, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dougdirt

I just hope he isn't grabbing them in Dayton, although I fear that is what will happen.....

Trading Juan Francisco would certainly clear the deck for him and Waring.

My theory is if Frazier's bat is as ready-made as it seems, then he won't play at any level for too long.

dougdirt · 11-01-2007, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by M2

Trading Juan Francisco would certainly clear the deck for him and Waring.

My theory is if Frazier's bat is as ready-made as it seems, then he won't play at any level for too long.

Valid point. I just envision him starting in Dayton and not getting a promotion until they move Valaika up as well....

TRF · 11-01-2007, 03:58 PM

So if we all agree, and we probably all do, that the top four are Bruce, Bailey and Cueto with Votto 4, who in the Reds org. has the talent AND baseball IQ of these guys.

In other words, who is the next Bruce in the system, the next Votto, the next Bailey or Cueto?

lollipopcurve · 11-01-2007, 04:09 PM

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In other words, who is the next Bruce in the system, the next Votto, the next Bailey or Cueto?

there's no uber-prospect-to-be on the horizon -- the current wave is rare

10-30-2007, 08:05 PM	#16
gedred69 Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: way-east of cincinnati Posts: 1,158	Re: 2008 breakout minor leaguer of the year And another thing. we keep talking about Bruce, and then Stubbs, and continue to omit Dan Dorn. This guy did Billings with Stubbs, skipped low A right to high A where he did Okay, got promoted to AA and turned it up several notches. Why does he stay under the radar? Am I missing some info?

10-31-2007, 05:50 AM	#19
camisadelgolf Vampire Weekend @Bernie's Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 11,311	Re: 2008 breakout minor leaguer of the year My obvious choice is Josh Roenicke, but you could argue that he already had his breakout year. If you don't count him, I think this is the year Justin Reed puts it all together. My sleeper picks include Carlos Mendez, Brandon Menchaca, Angel Cabrera, Jordan Wideman, and Juan Rafael. __________________ Get MLBtraderumors Reds updates on Facebook. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Reds-R...33794710005587 http://i.imgur.com/1bCKpaH.jpg

11-01-2007, 02:33 AM	#20
mth123 The Big Dog Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 12,685	Re: 2008 breakout minor leaguer of the year Carlos Fisher was my man last year and I'm sticking with him. The board is a lot more aware of him now and maybe he no longer qualifies, but I expect him to get it together with an offseason to rest his arm, dominate AA for a few weeks, pitch well at AAA and at some point make an appearance in Cincy. He may end up as a pen guy or hopefully has the goods for a number 4 rotation spot, but I'm guessing he appears in Cincy by the end of 2008. My second choice is way off the board and that is Ben Jukich. I've been critical of WK in the past, but he does have a scouting ability to find guys who are completely off the radar just before they are ready to step forward. Jared Burton is a good example. I think WK acquired Jukich for a reason and Jukich put together a pretty good run after a rocky start in the organization. Its possible (likely) that its just a guy with pedestrian stuff fooling younger hitters at a level that was low for his age, but I'm guessing WK knows something. How is that for some faith in the GM from one of his critics? __________________ "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH Having better players makes "the right time" or "the big hit" happen a lot more often. PLUS PLUS

11-01-2007, 03:10 AM	#21
Topcat Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,928	Re: 2008 breakout minor leaguer of the year Derrick Lutz is my Candidate and yes he is my adopted propsect so I am Bias but I just see him moving up fast. __________________ 2006 Redzone mock Draftee's- 1(st) Daniel Bard(redsox), 1(st sup)( Jordan Walden (Angels), 2(nd) rd.- Zach Britton(Orioles), 3(rd) Blair Erickson(Cardinals), 3(rd) Tim Norton( Yankees),(cuz its a Tim Hortons thing Pain heals. Chicks dig scars. Glory... lasts forever.

11-01-2007, 09:58 AM	#23
texasdave Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 9,554	Re: 2008 breakout minor leaguer of the year The player that I am hoping breaks out in a big way in 2008 is Devin Mesoraco, because he showed nothing at all in his first go-round. I understand that the first half season can be rough on players, but a .580 OPS is not exactly a confidence builder.

11-01-2007, 12:10 PM	#25
M2 Posting in Dynarama Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Boston Posts: 26,668	Re: 2008 breakout minor leaguer of the year I'll go with Luis Montano (over Justin Reed). Though I think Todd Frazier's the guy who's going to be grabbing the most headlines. __________________ Baseball isn't a magic trick ... it doesn't get spoiled if you figure out how it works. - gonelong I'm witchcrafting everybody.

11-01-2007, 03:58 PM	#29
TRF Vavasor Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Amarillo, TX Posts: 12,678	Re: 2008 breakout minor leaguer of the year So if we all agree, and we probably all do, that the top four are Bruce, Bailey and Cueto with Votto 4, who in the Reds org. has the talent AND baseball IQ of these guys. In other words, who is the next Bruce in the system, the next Votto, the next Bailey or Cueto? __________________ "don't end up with a grandson with a dog collar."

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