NFL 2023 Part II - Are the Chiefs actually human?

[plantmanky]

Just an older version of Dak at this point.

dont disagree but what other QB is available.

[dubc47834]

dont disagree but what other QB is available.

At this point I think they are married to Dak.

[Sea Ray]

At this point I think they are married to Dak.

Both Dak and Wilson have salary cap implications. Moving off Dak to Russ would be a dicey proposition unless Payton wants Dak, which I doubt


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[WVRed]

dont disagree but what other QB is available.Kirk Cousins will be a FA.

Yeah that's about it.

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[The Operator]

Ugh I hate Matt Stafford. Cooper Kupp and Aaron Donald, too.


Come on, Detroit.

[Sea Ray]

Like Miami I think Dallas just got exposed. They benefited from a really easy schedule including a really suck division


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[Mutaman]

Never been a Cowboy fan going back to the old NFL days and Dallas was an expansion team. Heck I remember Eddie LeBaron and Don Meredith. Being a Browns fan then, just didn’t like them.


I went to a game around 1960 where the Cowboys played in Green Bay. It must've been the Cowboys first season . Landry alternated LeBaron and Meredith on every series. Packers won like 40 to nothing. It was Ray Nitschke's first start and he had two interceptions. At that time, Lambeau was called City Field. Remember watching Willie Wood return punts and telling everyone he would never make it in the NFL.

[WVRed]

Like Miami I think Dallas just got exposed. They benefited from a really easy schedule including a really suck division


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkDidn't help that their main competition imploded down the stretch.

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[Sea Ray]

At least this playoff game is a close one

Detroit has a tendency to choke late in games. Let’s see if they can close this one out


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[WVRed]

At least this playoff game is a close one

Detroit has a tendency to choke late in games. Let’s see if they can close this one out


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThis has all the makings of Stafford leading a go ahead TD or FG drive to send the Rams on...

Where have we seen this before?

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[Hillsdale87]

Like Miami I think Dallas just got exposed. They benefited from a really easy schedule including a really suck division


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Cowboys feasted on bad teams. I can't find the graphic I saw the other day, but they had the easiest schedule in the league by a mile.


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[Roy Tucker]

Lions win a playoff game.

[The Operator]

Hell yes.


So long, Rams!

[WVRed]

Happy for Detroit. Remember when we got the monkey off our backs a couple years ago. Those fans deserve it.

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[RichRed]

Happy for the few Lions fan friends in my life. Lord how they’ve suffered.

[Sea Ray]

Cowboys feasted on bad teams. I can't find the graphic I saw the other day, but they had the easiest schedule in the league by a mile.


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Easier than Miami?


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[Reds Freak]

Happy for Detroit. Remember when we got the monkey off our backs a couple years ago. Those fans deserve it.

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The Lions situation feels very similar to 2021 Bengals. I'll be rooting for the rest of the way.

[Stray]

Jerry has to have already called Bill, right?

[RedTeamGo!]

Losing in the first round is one thing and I think making the playoffs usually has value but I genuinely would rather the Bengals miss the playoffs than lose by 30+ in the first round. Browns and Cowboys fans must feel miserable.

Ehh, honestly, it was a miracle the Browns made the playoffs this year with all the injuries they had. It wasn’t just the QB. The OL was pretty much Bitonio and a bunch of backups. Chubb out. Multiple injuries on D all year. Obviously, not great losing by 30, but making the playoffs this year was an accomplishment.

[Kingspoint]

The Browns had an excuse with their injuries and Flacco being their 4th QB. But what is the Cowboy excuse for getting crushed on their own field?

Mike McCarthy

[RedsBaron]

I went to a game around 1960 where the Cowboys played in Green Bay. It must've been the Cowboys first season . Landry alternated LeBaron and Meredith on every series. Packers won like 40 to nothing. It was Ray Nitschke's first start and he had two interceptions. At that time, Lambeau was called City Field. Remember watching Willie Wood return punts and telling everyone he would never make it in the NFL.

Good memory. I just looked up the game. Green Bay won 41-7.

[WVRed]

Jerry has to have already called Bill, right?Considering how well the other Bill worked under Jerry I'll be shocked if it happens.

Belichick will want some say in players and Jerry is still the GM.

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[Sea Ray]

Jerry has to have already called Bill, right?

Both guys are control freaks. I don’t see a match here


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[RichRed]

The two young QBs had remarkably similar stats in their first playoff games:

Jordan Love - 16-21, 272 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INT
C.J. Stroud - 16-21, 274 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INT

Pretty incredible.

[Assembly Hall]

The two young QBs had remarkably similar stats in their first playoff games:

Jordan Love - 16-21, 272 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INT
C.J. Stroud - 16-21, 274 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INT

Pretty incredible.

Let's see how they fare in their next games.

[Hillsdale87]

Easier than Miami?


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Found it. I had saved it earlier in the week but can't remember the source. I also saw Aaron Schatz say that by DVOA Dallas faced the easiest schedule on offense and the 24th easiest on defense.

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[Sea Ray]

Ehh, honestly, it was a miracle the Browns made the playoffs this year with all the injuries they had. It wasn’t just the QB. The OL was pretty much Bitonio and a bunch of backups. Chubb out. Multiple injuries on D all year. Obviously, not great losing by 30, but making the playoffs this year was an accomplishment.

The Browns had an outstanding year...and it still ended in a first rd blowout in the playoffs. The problem is that the DeShawn Watson bills are coming due in more ways than one. I don't know how many more times they can restructure his deal but his cap hit as of now jumps from $19mill this year to $64 mill in 2024. His dead cap hit is a non starter and out of the question. Because of Watson their first pick in the draft won't be until late in the 2nd rd.

They had the top defense in the NFL this year. There's nowhere to go but down from there

[Sea Ray]

Found it. I had saved it earlier in the week but can't remember the source. I also saw Aaron Schatz say that by DVOA Dallas faced the easiest schedule on offense and the 24th easiest on defense.

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Yep and this site shows Dallas had the #30 most difficult schedule this year. (The Bengals were #1 of course). What made it all the more interesting is that Dallas not only beat these bad teams. They beat them into submission, making it seem like Dallas was really better than they were.

I think the entire NFC was weak this year. Even the 49ers were just a mere 2-3 vs the AFC

[RedTeamGo!]

The Browns had an outstanding year...and it still ended in a first rd blowout in the playoffs. The problem is that the DeShawn Watson bills are coming due in more ways than one. I don't know how many more times they can restructure his deal but his cap hit as of now jumps from $19mill this year to $64 mill in 2024. His dead cap hit is a non starter and out of the question. Because of Watson their first pick in the draft won't be until late in the 2nd rd.

They had the top defense in the NFL this year. There's nowhere to go but down from there

Oh, I agree - the Watson deal is going to ruin a franchise on the rise. Definitely a gigantic mistake.

[dubc47834]

Mike McCarthy

Dak Prescot as well.

[bucksfan2]

The Browns had an outstanding year...and it still ended in a first rd blowout in the playoffs. The problem is that the DeShawn Watson bills are coming due in more ways than one. I don't know how many more times they can restructure his deal but his cap hit as of now jumps from $19mill this year to $64 mill in 2024. His dead cap hit is a non starter and out of the question. Because of Watson their first pick in the draft won't be until late in the 2nd rd.

They had the top defense in the NFL this year. There's nowhere to go but down from there

To start the season the Browns had the best roster in the NFL. They lost a lot through through attrition. I always felt like Flacco was fools gold. He looked good beating up on bad or down teams. Felt like it was all coming due in the playoffs. It was a fun story for the NFL and Cleveland.

Watson at the time was a massive risk, and is turning out to be a gigantic miss. The guaranteed contract he has requires him to play like a top tier QB, which he isn't. They really need to hit on their later round draft picks, which they have done with Jones and Hickman to name a couple. But it will be an uphill battle for them over the next few years.

[Sea Ray]

Dak Prescot as well.

Dak has one more year left on his contract. I don't think it's a guaranteed year but the dead cap numbers are horrendous, making cutting him a near impossibility

[BuckeyeRed27]

With the cap going up and salary restructures the Browns will be fine in 24. They can actually probably bring in at least one impact free agent plus any of the FA they want to retain like Walker, Smith and Takitaki.

[moewan]

Mike McCarthy

Mike McCarthy had 12 years of prime Aaron Rodgers and he only got one title

[oregonred]

The two young QBs had remarkably similar stats in their first playoff games:

Jordan Love - 16-21, 272 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INT
C.J. Stroud - 16-21, 274 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INT

Pretty incredible.
Great games but one just turned 22 and started as a Day 1 rookie while the other is from the same draft class as Joe Burrow, Tua, Herbert and Hurts. Sat around for three years learning the offense from Matt LaFleur and Aaron Rodgers and will soon get really expensive.

[RichRed]

The two young QBs had remarkably similar stats in their first playoff games:

Jordan Love - 16-21, 272 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INT
C.J. Stroud - 16-21, 274 yards, 3 TDs, 0 INT

Pretty incredible.

The uncanny similarities in their performances go even further:

Love - One rush for -1 yards, no sacks
Stroud - One rush for 1 yard, no sacks

It’ll be interesting to see how these guys do in the next round.

[Hillsdale87]

These playoff games show that there is a massive gap between the top 4-5 guys (I'd maybe be willing to put Stroud all the way up to #5) and the next tier (Dak, Tua, Cousins). Against most teams, the guys in the second tier look like the guys in the elite tier. But when the pressure ramps up and the windows get tighter, there is a massive gap. QB is by far the most important position, but there are so few real difference makers. We're so lucky to have one in Burrow.


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[Sea Ray]

With the cap going up and salary restructures the Browns will be fine in 24. They can actually probably bring in at least one impact free agent plus any of the FA they want to retain like Walker, Smith and Takitaki.

NFL teams do always seem to figure these things out but as of now they're in the red by $13mill.

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/cleveland-browns

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These playoff games show that there is a massive gap between the top 4-5 guys (I'd maybe be willing to put Stroud all the way up to #5) and the next tier (Dak, Tua, Cousins). Against most teams, the guys in the second tier look like the guys in the elite tier. But when the pressure ramps up and the windows get tighter, there is a massive gap. QB is by far the most important position, but there are so few real difference makers. We're so lucky to have one in Burrow.


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So very true. We saw this with Andy Dalton. Folded in the playoffs

[BuckeyeRed27]

NFL teams do always seem to figure these things out but as of now they're in the red by $13mill.

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/cleveland-browns

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So very true. We saw this with Andy Dalton. Folded in the playoffs

You need a doctorate to figure out the NFL salary cap. “People that know things” think they’ll have around $60-80M available when they do whatever they do.

[bucksfan2]

These playoff games show that there is a massive gap between the top 4-5 guys (I'd maybe be willing to put Stroud all the way up to #5) and the next tier (Dak, Tua, Cousins). Against most teams, the guys in the second tier look like the guys in the elite tier. But when the pressure ramps up and the windows get tighter, there is a massive gap. QB is by far the most important position, but there are so few real difference makers. We're so lucky to have one in Burrow.


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I think Dak is that guy who checks all the boxes and is a boarderline franchise QB. He is good enough to win a game but can he win multiple games in a row against good teams?

Did anyone expect Miami to win the game in KC. The moment they lost to Buffalo the week prior, their season was over. They just couldn't go north to win a game in the cold. They needed multiple home games to advance in the playoffs.

I think the elite QB's in the game give you a chance to win as long as they are healthy. Its a good feeling when you have Burrow on your team.

[WVRed]

I think Dak is that guy who checks all the boxes and is a boarderline franchise QB. He is good enough to win a game but can he win multiple games in a row against good teams?

Did anyone expect Miami to win the game in KC. The moment they lost to Buffalo the week prior, their season was over. They just couldn't go north to win a game in the cold. They needed multiple home games to advance in the playoffs.

I think the elite QB's in the game give you a chance to win as long as they are healthy. Its a good feeling when you have Burrow on your team.

I honestly don't think Miami would have won even if they had home field advantage.

Whether it's Tua or McDaniel to blame, Miami can't win games when it matters.

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[oregonred]

The 40M a year not quite elite but good QB is a tough spot. See Dallas, NYG, Minn with Cousins and soon Tua (jury still out on Love but he may move closer to the 50M tier if the Packers keep winning).

[KoryMac5]

Pitts had to pray for bad Josh to show up and unfortunately for them he came out cooking... 5 for 5 and 56 yds

[Roy Tucker]

Buffalo up 14-0 with 4:10 left in 1Q.

[Sea Ray]

This one day delay was a huge advantage for the Bills

Pittsburgh probably won't score 14 pts 'till garbage time

[Roy Tucker]

This one day delay was a huge advantage for the Bills

Pittsburgh probably won't score 14 pts 'till garbage time

Buffalo stacking up on 1st down to stop the Steelers rush. They’re forcing Mason Rudolph to throw to beat them. I have doubts that will happen.

[RedsBaron]

The Bills were screwed by the officials on that call. That was a fumble recovered by the Bills.

[757690]

The Bills were screwed by the officials on that call. That was a fumble recovered by the Bills.

Have to keep the game close. Don’t want to lose too many viewers this early in the game.

[Roy Tucker]

The Bills were screwed by the officials on that call. That was a fumble recovered by the Bills.

I think what they ruled was the Steeler TE was out of bounds and the ball touched his helmet which I think makes the ball out of bounds. I think. Weird call.

[Bob Sheed]

Those good ole hard nosed blue collar lunchpail NFL referees keep trying to help the Steelers, but Mason Rudolph has other plans, and will not be denied..

[oregonred]

Game over. Was that a half Pickett fake slide by Allen?

[Redsfaithful]

Those good ole hard nosed blue collar lunchpail NFL referees keep trying to help the Steelers, but Mason Rudolph has other plans, and will not be denied..

Thought of you on that fumble!

[Roy Tucker]

Steelers making a game of it. Bills 24-17.

[goreds2]

Game over. Was that a half Pickett fake slide by Allen?

Wink wink ?

[Roy Tucker]

Steelers called for a late hit. I’m shocked.

[RedsBaron]

Bills have been my quasi-dark horse pick in the playoffs but they are banged up. However, I guess most teams are banged up at this point.

[The Operator]

Hate to say it but The Steelers got jobbed and should have had an automatic first down penalty on that 4th down turnover.


Ah well. :)

[Roy Tucker]

Bills kicker having a tough day and misses a short FG. Looks like he has the yips. That might be a problem further on in the playoffs.

[RedsBaron]

Bills kicker having a tough day and misses a short FG. Looks like he has the yips. That might be a problem further on in the playoffs.

Yes, that's one of the worst FG attempts by an NFL kicker I can ever recall seeing.

[The Operator]

Gotta say I’m pretty stoked that Mahomes will finally have to go on the road in a playoff game.

[WVRed]

Gotta say I’m pretty stoked that Mahomes will finally have to go on the road in a playoff game.Wonder if Taylor will brave the snow?

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[KoryMac5]

Josh Allen was pretty much perfect today…was awesome to see Fitzpatrick miss that tackle that lead to the highlight of the game.

KC/Buffalo 630p

[Roy Tucker]

Hate to say it but The Steelers got jobbed and should have had an automatic first down penalty on that 4th down turnover.


Ah well. :)

I must say, I got a chuckle out of the Steelers whining about that call. They get away with more borderline fouls than any other team. Well, except for maybe the Chiefs.

[757690]

The Eagles switching to Patricia as defensive coordinator really helped, lol.

[The Operator]

Watching Baker Mayfield ball out in the playoffs must be absolutely excruciating for Browns fans. Man oh man.


That DeShaun Watson trade may be spoken of in the same breath as Herschel Walker if things continue like this.

[Sea Ray]

Eagles center Jason Kelce informs teammates he is retiring.

https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1747240220297142692?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1747240220297142692%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

There goes the Tush Push play

[Slyder]

The Panthers taking a 5'10 QB instead of CJ Stroud is going to go down in history as an all-time bad decision.

On top of what 3 firsts?

[Chip R]

Browns are going to be interesting next season. I guess Watson's going to be healthy to start the season but can he stay healthy? The Browns didn't really need him but when Watson is at the top of his form, he's among the best. But Watson's the type of guy who takes up all the oxygen in the room. I seem to think he's similar to Kyrie Irving. Talented AF but there's always something going on there and it's not usually positive.

[KoryMac5]

Browns are going to be interesting next season. I guess Watson's going to be healthy to start the season but can he stay healthy? The Browns didn't really need him but when Watson is at the top of his form, he's among the best. But Watson's the type of guy who takes up all the oxygen in the room. I seem to think he's similar to Kyrie Irving. Talented AF but there's always something going on there and it's not usually positive.

When was Watson's last good season though 2020...we are 4 years removed from that.

Pressure will be enormous for him next season, can you imagine the boos if they start out of the gate 0-2 people will be clamoring to have Flacco back.

[Chip R]

Jim Irsay ODd back in December.

https://www.tmz.com/2024/01/17/jim-irsay-found-unresponsive-blue-suspected-overdose-december-cops-say/

[Sea Ray]

Breaking: I’m told the #Browns have fired offensive coordinator Alex Van Pelt, running backs coach Stump Mitchell and tight ends coach T.C. McCartney, per source.

Some of the players are upset from the news.

https://twitter.com/JosinaAnderson/status/1747574587011780721?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1747574587011780721%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

I wonder if Van Pelt ends up in NY Jets in some capacity. Aaron Rodgers loves him

[Slyder]

https://twitter.com/JosinaAnderson/status/1747574587011780721?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1747574587011780721%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

I wonder if Van Pelt ends up in NY Jets in some capacity. Aaron Rodgers loves him


Still bitter about him leading a comeback against WVU when he was at Pitt in 1989. That game derailed the entire season coming off the Fiesta Bowl Title Game against Notre Dame.

[KoryMac5]

https://twitter.com/JosinaAnderson/status/1747574587011780721?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1747574587011780721%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

I wonder if Van Pelt ends up in NY Jets in some capacity. Aaron Rodgers loves him

If they lose Callahan that will be the biggest loss...better hope his son doesn't get promoted.

[Rojo Rijo]

On top of what 3 firsts?

1st (#9 in '23) - Traded to Philadelphia for #10 and a 2024 4th. Took OT Darnell Wright at #10. Wright started all 17 games at RT this season.
2nd (#61 in '23) - Traded along with a 5th to move up to #56 and take CB Tyrique Stevenson who emerged late this year and looks like he's going to be a solid starting CB.
WR DJ Moore - 2023 ranks - Rec 96 (13th), Yards 1,364 (6th), TDs 8 (tied for 8th)
1st ('24 #1 overall)
2nd (2025)

If Young doesnt develop into at least a league average starter with some shiny moments this will be what defines Teppers career as the owner. This trade is going to be the catalyst that boosts Chicago into contention and cripples Carolina for years to come.

With that being said im slightly torn on what Chicago should do, though I think the best outcome is for them to draft Caleb Williams and get a team like Atlanta to cough up some picks for Fields. I'm slightly torn because I like Fields but I just dont see how Chicago can pass on Williams.

[Slyder]

1st (#9 in '23) - Traded to Philadelphia for #10 and a 2024 4th. Took OT Darnell Wright at #10. Wright started all 17 games at RT this season.
2nd (#61 in '23) - Traded along with a 5th to move up to #56 and take CB Tyrique Stevenson who emerged late this year and looks like he's going to be a solid starting CB.
WR DJ Moore - 2023 ranks - Rec 96 (13th), Yards 1,364 (6th), TDs 8 (tied for 8th)
1st ('24 #1 overall)
2nd (2025)

If Young doesnt develop into at least a league average starter with some shiny moments this will be what defines Teppers career as the owner. This trade is going to be the catalyst that boosts Chicago into contention and cripples Carolina for years to come.

With that being said im slightly torn on what Chicago should do, though I think the best outcome is for them to draft Caleb Williams and get a team like Atlanta to cough up some picks for Fields. I'm slightly torn because I like Fields but I just dont see how Chicago can pass on Williams.

I don’t get the love for Williams, it’s like Jamarcus Russell and Josh Rosen had a love child and it’s Caleb Williams. The teams with good d.. he didn’t really do much, teams with undermanned/bad ds he ran up stats. Granted his d provided no support. I’m glad LV is low enough that I don’t think they are in contention.


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[Assembly Hall]

Bears to Indiana?

https://fox59.com/indiana-news/lawmaker-wants-to-entice-chicago-bears-to-move-to-indiana/

[WVRed]

1st (#9 in '23) - Traded to Philadelphia for #10 and a 2024 4th. Took OT Darnell Wright at #10. Wright started all 17 games at RT this season.
2nd (#61 in '23) - Traded along with a 5th to move up to #56 and take CB Tyrique Stevenson who emerged late this year and looks like he's going to be a solid starting CB.
WR DJ Moore - 2023 ranks - Rec 96 (13th), Yards 1,364 (6th), TDs 8 (tied for 8th)
1st ('24 #1 overall)
2nd (2025)

If Young doesnt develop into at least a league average starter with some shiny moments this will be what defines Teppers career as the owner. This trade is going to be the catalyst that boosts Chicago into contention and cripples Carolina for years to come.

With that being said im slightly torn on what Chicago should do, though I think the best outcome is for them to draft Caleb Williams and get a team like Atlanta to cough up some picks for Fields. I'm slightly torn because I like Fields but I just dont see how Chicago can pass on Williams.OTOH the last time the Bears took a QB from North Carolina it did not end well for them. (Trubisky)

I'd kinda like to see Jayden Daniels blow up the combine and go first over both of them.

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[Slyder]

1st (#9 in '23) - Traded to Philadelphia for #10 and a 2024 4th. Took OT Darnell Wright at #10. Wright started all 17 games at RT this season.
2nd (#61 in '23) - Traded along with a 5th to move up to #56 and take CB Tyrique Stevenson who emerged late this year and looks like he's going to be a solid starting CB.
WR DJ Moore - 2023 ranks - Rec 96 (13th), Yards 1,364 (6th), TDs 8 (tied for 8th)
1st ('24 #1 overall)
2nd (2025)

If Young doesnt develop into at least a league average starter with some shiny moments this will be what defines Teppers career as the owner. This trade is going to be the catalyst that boosts Chicago into contention and cripples Carolina for years to come.

With that being said im slightly torn on what Chicago should do, though I think the best outcome is for them to draft Caleb Williams and get a team like Atlanta to cough up some picks for Fields. I'm slightly torn because I like Fields but I just dont see how Chicago can pass on Williams.

Its true either Chicago either takes a QB or gets another haul of picks from someone else... This might not be the right board (local biases) but would you consider Marvin Harrison, Jr. for #1 IF the trade offers for #1 aren't appetizing or you taking the "best of" and try to position for him at like 3-4.

[Boston Red]

Bears to Indiana?

https://fox59.com/indiana-news/lawmaker-wants-to-entice-chicago-bears-to-move-to-indiana/

That would be awesome if it meant Arlington Park reopened. Loved that racetrack.

[oregonred]

Didn't the Bears flirt with Gary, Indiana for a hot minute a couple decades ago before they leveraged the latest Soldier Field upgrades?

[Chip R]

I thought the Arlington Park thing was a done deal. I guess you never know with Chicago/Illinois politics.

[Assembly Hall]

Didn't the Bears flirt with Gary, Indiana for a hot minute a couple decades ago before they leveraged the latest Soldier Field upgrades?

I don't recall Gary specifically but I do remember something about them playing at Notre Dame Stadium temporarily?

[Assembly Hall]

I thought the Arlington Park thing was a done deal. I guess you never know with Chicago/Illinois politics.

Per Fox59:


In 2021, the team purchased a 326-acre former racecourse in Arlington Heights for just shy of $200 million fueling speculation of a move out to the suburbs for the Bears. Recently, the Bears said their attempt to build a stadium may not just be focused on Arlington Heights, however, opening the door for other options.

[oregonred]

https://www.cbsnews.com/chicago/news/bears-1995-proposal-move-suburbs-gary-mayor-richard-m-daley/

1995. I remember at the time the absurdity of the idea to use Gary, Indiana as leverage. But it worked as the NFL was in full relocation and stadium hostage mode in the mid to late 90s.

[Bob Sheed]

Bonus points if they rename them to the Gary Bears. :lol:

[Assembly Hall]

Bonus points if they rename them to the Gary Bears. :lol:

As long as it isn't the Gary Colemans.

[Bob Sheed]

As long as it isn't the Gary Colemans.

Whatchutalkinbout, Assembly Hall...

[WrongVerb]

Bonus points if they rename them to the Gary Bears. :lol:

Garimy Bearimy

(watchers of The Good Place will get the reference)

[KoryMac5]

The Twitter Beef between Jay Gruden and RG III is pretty epic if you like that sort of thing...

It spans from a tweet Jay sent while watching Jalen Hurts implode against the Bucs.

https://sports.yahoo.com/robert-griffin-iii-jay-gruden-feud-enters-day-4-not-getting-any-less-sad-043153307.html

[Bob Sheed]

The Twitter Beef between Jay Gruden and RG III is pretty epic if you like that sort of thing...

It spans from a tweet Jay sent while watching Jalen Hurts implode against the Bucs.

https://sports.yahoo.com/robert-griffin-iii-jay-gruden-feud-enters-day-4-not-getting-any-less-sad-043153307.html

Just two has-beens trying to get eyes/clicks for their post-NFL exploits.

[Sea Ray]

You folks gotta watch this 42 second clip. I'll refrain from making gender generalizations here but rest assured this woman doesn't know enough about football to even be in that room. Regardless, this is fall out of your chair hilarious:

https://twitter.com/TylerFeldmanTV/status/1747467583727505809?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1747467583727505809%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

[Todd Gack]

You folks gotta watch this 42 second clip. I'll refrain from making gender generalizations here but rest assured this woman doesn't know enough about football to even be in that room. Regardless, this is fall out of your chair hilarious:

https://twitter.com/TylerFeldmanTV/status/1747467583727505809?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1747467583727505809%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

Classic.

😂

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Just two has-beens trying to get eyes/clicks for their post-NFL exploits.

RGIII is an idiot for starting it.

Jay is an idiot for acknowledging it. Best thing to ignore stupid comments like that is ignore it.

[Todd Gack]

You folks gotta watch this 42 second clip. I'll refrain from making gender generalizations here but rest assured this woman doesn't know enough about football to even be in that room. Regardless, this is fall out of your chair hilarious:

https://twitter.com/TylerFeldmanTV/status/1747467583727505809?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1747467583727505809%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

This actually deserves another post. That’s a fireable question IMO. Just awful. Stop hiring people because of their genitals or skin color.

[Todd Gack]

In regards to the Ravens and Texans, a couple thoughts:

1) Troy Aikman is awful.
2) playoff Lamar is back!

Not sure why anyone wouldn’t just sit back and force him to throw it. He’s holding on to the ball WAAAAY too long.

[Todd Gack]

Wtf is wrong with Lamar? Dude lost his cool on a 4 yard run and then threw into double coverage in an almost pick before running for a TD.

He is not stable.

[LiferJim]

Lamar is waaay overrated


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[LiferJim]

Newsflash Demeco. Run game isn’t working

Update. Til now


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[Todd Gack]

Why? Just why?

You just busted off your best run of the night and now you want try this is stupid gadget stuff that completely ruins the drive?

[Roy Tucker]

Ravens defense is tough. Houston’s wide receivers aren’t getting open. Stroud doesn’t have many options.

[Todd Gack]

Ravens defense is tough. Houston’s wide receivers aren’t getting open. Stroud doesn’t have many options.

He’s having to earn it tonight.

[LiferJim]

Ravens defense is tough. Houston’s wide receivers aren’t getting open. Stroud doesn’t have many options.

Yes they are a very good defense and the main reason the Ravins are so good.


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[LiferJim]

How did they miss that block in the back. Need a stop here


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[Roy Tucker]

How did they miss that block in the back. Need a stop here


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I thought the same thing. The OT just tackled the DB.

[The Operator]

Houston just killing themselves with pre-snap penalties.

[LiferJim]

I fear the next game is going to be more of the same. Niners dominating


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[oregonred]

7 games so far and all hut one dullsville going into the 4th quarter

Bengals at the level they played vs. the Bills last year would be beating both teams by double digits

[KoryMac5]

It was just a matter of time before Houston turned into pumpkins...they played a very soft schedule this season in a weak division

[Hillsdale87]

Ravens don't have a weakness. Lamar is so dangerous. And their OL dominated that last drive. They're going to be tough to beat.


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[Todd Gack]

Houston just couldn’t stop the run and make Baltimore a passing team. Not sure if Buffalo or KC can do it either but we’ll see. For sure rooting for Buffalo the rest of the way.

I just don’t think I can hope for KC to beat Baltimore…but k also hate Baltimore too so I’ll just hope for the 49ers to win it all if that were the case.

[oregonred]

3 weeks off for Ravens was big against a young dome team from Texas happy to be this far.

Why you want that #1 seed

[RiverRat13]

Probably just my perception but going quick to the line to try to pick up 3rd or 4th and short seems to backfire a high percentage.

[LiferJim]

Purdy looks terrible


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[The Operator]

Jordan Love goes all Josh Allen and throws across his body to the left side of the field while running. INT. Game iced.


Too bad.

[KronoRed]

Least we finally got a playoff game that didn't put one to sleep.

[GAC]

I'm actually going to watch the Detriot- TB game today because it's a win-win situation for me.

I want Detroit to win (for obvous reasons already mentioned)

But Baker Mayfield advancing TB will have to really stick in the crawl of Brown's fans who cast him aside. (lol)

[goreds2]

Today:

4 Tampa Bay
at
3 Detroit
3:00 pm
NBC



3 Kansas City ( ha ha road game )
At
2 Buffalo
6:30 pm
CBS

[Assembly Hall]

Go Lions!

[KoryMac5]

Mike Evans must have been effected by the cold weather on that Mayfield INT...

It is loud in Detroit today if they score a TD here they are going to blow the roof off.

[The Operator]

Jared Goff hurt?

[Roy Tucker]

I will say I’m rooting for the Bills. I’m a little tired of the KC love fest.

[GAC]

I will say I’m rooting for the Bills. I’m a little tired of the KC love fest.

I'm as tired of seeing Mahome's mug on the TV as I was with Peyton's.

[LiferJim]

How can they just leave Kelce wide open? Jeesh


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[The Operator]

I'm as tired of seeing Mahome's mug on the TV as I was with Peyton's.

I’m far more sick of the Taylor Swift stuff.

[KoryMac5]

Bills just grinding away here I like Brady’s game plan of run run run.

Neither defense has been able to get many stops and both are banged up.

[Hillsdale87]

If I was the Chiefs, I would stop giving up 7 yards on every play. Bills are just dinking and dunking down the field every drive.


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[RiverRat13]

What a throw and catch!

[Boston Red]

This game is setting up to be a classic. If the winner of this game can beat the Ravens and Niners they'd be a VERY deserving champ.

[Hillsdale87]

These 2 QBs are incredible


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[dubc47834]

This game is setting up to be a classic. If the winner of this game can beat the Ravens and Niners they'd be a VERY deserving champ.

Don't count out the Lions against the 49ers. I think the Lions are gonna go to the Super Bowl.

[757690]

I’m far more sick of the Taylor Swift stuff.

I want the Chiefs so we can get more shots of a shirtless Jason Kelce dancing in front of Taylor Swift.

[Roy Tucker]

Good ballgame. Unless someone makes a big turnover mistake, it looks like it will be whoever has the ball last.

The Bills running game is just dominating the KC defense.

[The Operator]

Did the Bills seriously just fake a punt with Damar Hamlin?

Chiefs now set up just outside the 30.

[WVRed]

Sean McDermott channeling his inner Zac Taylor on that playcall.

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[The Operator]

Ooohhhh that’s close.


Bills may get the ball back.

[Roy Tucker]

Huge call coming. Chiefs may have fumbled through the end zone.

[The Operator]

Buffalo ball.

Wow!

[Roy Tucker]

Bills make a play but are incredibly lucky with this last sequence.

[WrongVerb]

Bills make a play but are incredibly lucky with this last sequence.

In the long run, luck evens out. The trick is being skillful enough to capitalize on it when it shines favorably upon you. That means the Bills must score here.

Edit: oh well. At least they punted it this time.

[The Operator]

Not much going the Bills’ way.

[KoryMac5]

Buffalo's defense is gassed...

[The Operator]

Interesting late DPI call to keep the Chiefs moving.


Typical.

[Todd Gack]

I’m going to have to root for Baltimore next week, aren’t I?

[Sea Ray]

I’m going to have to root for Baltimore next week, aren’t I?

Never

[KoryMac5]

Huge issue for the Bills is Diggs has been covered pretty well and they don't have a second wide out who can consistently get open.

[The Operator]

Never

I can’t deal with another Chiefs Super Bowl. Especially with the Taylor Swift stuff.


I hate the Ravens, for sure, but at least I can rule the Chiefs out and then root for the NFC which will hopefully be Detroit.

[Boston Red]

Shameful to ever root against Lamar Jackson. :)

[The Operator]

Allen is so damn careless with the football.

[Roy Tucker]

Bills are pretty wobbly but still have the ball.

[WVRed]

Allen is so damn careless with the football.If they win this game Baltimore will eat him alive next week.

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[Roy Tucker]

It will be interesting to see if the Bills can chew up the clock and still score.

[RiverRat13]

Feels like a FG here by Buffalo leads to a loss in regulation.

[KoryMac5]

It will be interesting to see if the Bills can chew up the clock and still score.

I feel like sometimes coaches overmanage the clock...Bills have momentum...go get the TD.

[The Operator]

I feel like sometimes coaches overmanage the clock...Bills have momentum...go get the TD.

That loss in the last 15 or whatever seconds 2 years ago still haunts them, no doubt about it.

[KoryMac5]

Bills kicker has been shaky last few weeks

[The Operator]

Ouch.

[Boston Red]

JUST a bit outside.

[Roy Tucker]

Two words that Bills fans hate…. wide right.

Looks like the Chiefs will win. Bah.

[Boston Red]

Over

[757690]

Bills still haunted by the ghost of Scott Norwood

20805

[LiferJim]

Wow. As much as I dislike Baltimore, I hope they beat the Chiefs.


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[KoryMac5]

I felt the Bills overmanaged the clock there...had momentum and tried a few safe runs...you can't count on Bass.

[WVRed]

Wow. As much as I dislike Baltimore, I hope they beat the Chiefs.


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[RiverRat13]

Only Tony Romo would give Mahomes all of the credit in a game where KC ran it for 6.4 yards per carry.

[Roy Tucker]

Mahomes against the Ravens defense will be interesting.

[Reds Freak]

I felt the Bills overmanaged the clock there...had momentum and tried a few safe runs...you can't count on Bass.

Yea the kicker is gonna be the goat, but that was a terrible series of plays/decisions by Allen for that drive to stall at the 30.

[Roy Tucker]

And even with the Bills kicker missing the FG, you’d be giving the ball back to Mahomes with 1:47 left and timeouts and just needing a FG. But that’s why you play the game. Stuff happens.

[RiverRat13]

Was rooting for the Bills but that was a fun game. Should be two solid matchups next weekend. Whoever wins the AFC should be a 3-5 point favorite in the Super Bowl.

[Falls City Beer]

Go Lamar!

[757690]

As much as I dislike both teams, a Jackson/Mahomes battle should be entertaining.

On the other side, a Purdy/Goff matchup seems rather boring.

[The Operator]

Yea the kicker is gonna be the goat, but that was a terrible series of plays/decisions by Allen for that drive to stall at the 30.

Yea, it’s pretty wild to me that they went conservative there and played for overtime after what happened in the final seconds of regulation against KC two years ago.

Keep your foot on the gas and play to win.

[GAC]

Mahomes against the Ravens defense will be interesting.

If Detroit advances to the SB and faces off against the Ravens, it may not be pretty. Unless the Lions study film and make the adjustments. The Ravens destroyed them, at home, 38-6. Lamarr 21/27 for 357 yds, 3 TDs. Baltimore also rushed for 146 yds, and put up over 500 yards total.

I thought the Texans did a solid job in the first half containing Lackson. But I guess you can only contain him for so long. But everyone knows the best way to beat Jackson is to keep him in the pocket.

[KoryMac5]

How is this for a stat that I saw on Twitter

Tonight the Bills:

- both rushed & passed for 180+ yds
- had 0 giveaways & took 0 sacks
- had < 30 penalty yds
- had 35:00+ TOP
- had 5 separate 10+ play drives

No other NFL team in the Super Bowl era has done all that in the same game (reg or post). They still ended up losing.

[KoryMac5]

Nice move by the Lions to put Ertz on the practice squad...

[WVRed]

One of the most annoying things over the weekend was the constant Brady-Manning comparisons to Mahomes-Allen.

Brady-Rivers would be a better comparison with how often Rivers won against Brady.

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[Chip R]

On the ESPN radio morning show this morning they were advocating that the Bills fire McDermott and hire Belichik. Not that they think McDermott is a bad coach they just feel that Belichick can put them over the top. They said he wants to hook up with a good team, a team to stick it to NE, and with a QB that may need that extra coaching.

[WVRed]

On the ESPN radio morning show this morning they were advocating that the Bills fire McDermott and hire Belichik. Not that they think McDermott is a bad coach they just feel that Belichick can put them over the top. They said he wants to hook up with a good team, a team to stick it to NE, and with a QB that may need that extra coaching.Problem is Belichick is a defensive coach like McDermott. He had Brady but McDaniels and O'Brien mostly ran the offense.

The problem with Belichick is that we all saw the Patriot Way was Brady. The Falcons seem like a guinea pig to try to recreate it but if Bill brings in his people from the Pats (McDaniels, Patricia) it may be a culture clash with the players already there. He may just need to retire.

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[Hillsdale87]

One of the most annoying things over the weekend was the constant Brady-Manning comparisons to Mahomes-Allen.

Brady-Rivers would be a better comparison with how often Rivers won against Brady.

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Yep. Burrow is 5-1 against those guys. Allen is awesome, but Burrow and Brady are the only guys to actually threaten Mahomes over the last few years.


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[KoryMac5]

On the ESPN radio morning show this morning they were advocating that the Bills fire McDermott and hire Belichik. Not that they think McDermott is a bad coach they just feel that Belichick can put them over the top. They said he wants to hook up with a good team, a team to stick it to NE, and with a QB that may need that extra coaching.

You can't lost 2 home playoff games back to back like that...he got a pass on the first one but the loss to KC is difficult as every single bounce went there way and they still got beat.

My issue with McDermott has always been the same when games get close he starts coaching to not lose instead of coaching to win. The late 4th quarter play calling was atrocious.

[Todd Gack]

You can't lost 2 home playoff games back to back like that...he got a pass on the first one but the loss to KC is difficult as every single bounce went there way and they still got beat.

My issue with McDermott has always been the same when games get close he starts coaching to not lose instead of coaching to win. The late 4th quarter play calling was atrocious.

At least Buffalo was good enough to host back-to-back home playoff games.

[Chip R]

You can't lost 2 home playoff games back to back like that...he got a pass on the first one but the loss to KC is difficult as every single bounce went there way and they still got beat.

My issue with McDermott has always been the same when games get close he starts coaching to not lose instead of coaching to win. The late 4th quarter play calling was atrocious.

Not to take anything away from the Bengals but they just trounced the Bills in Buffalo in the snow. And it's not that the Bengals won, it's how they won. You shouldn't beat a team like that on the road in conditions favorable to the home team like that. That said, I don't know what the deal is with Buffalo. They played an almost flawless game on Sunday. But almost flawless isn't enough enough against the Chiefs. Is Allen to blame? McDermott? Sometimes the playoffs are luck. You can win every game and still lose in the Super Bowl like NE did that one year.

[RiverRat13]

Harbaugh to the Chargers is the right fit. He'll already have a QB. They need to shed a ton of salary, so he can do a complete reset of the roster (which he'll like) and clear up a ton of cap space in 2025. That means they'll most likely be pretty bad in 2024, but there's a path towards being competitive again soon while he gets to reshape the roster how he wants it.

[Sea Ray]

The NFL pushed the panic button ��

They have a ref in their rotation who is a MASSIVE edge to road teams

Road teams win at the #1 highest rate with him...

He penalizes home teams in ways no other ref does... and...

He's calling the Chiefs road game

https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1749845439862513960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1749845439862513960%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

[Chip R]

https://twitter.com/SharpFootball/status/1749845439862513960?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1749845439862513960%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

I saw where Clete Blakeman is doing the Lions Niners game. He's got a bit of history with the Lions.

https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nfl/lions/2024/01/22/detroit-lions-nfc-title-game-referee-clete-blakeman-san-francisco-49ers/72314759007/

[Sea Ray]

Harbaugh to the Chargers is the right fit. He'll already have a QB. They need to shed a ton of salary, so he can do a complete reset of the roster (which he'll like) and clear up a ton of cap space in 2025. That means they'll most likely be pretty bad in 2024, but there's a path towards being competitive again soon while he gets to reshape the roster how he wants it.

It's time the Chiefs get some competition in that division

[Assembly Hall]

It's time the Chiefs get some competition in that division

Good point. KC has flat arzsed owned that division.

That being said, the Chiefs have been a damn good team.

[dubc47834]

Schefty reporting Harbaugh to the Chargers. Seams like that's been the deal since UM won the Natty.

[Assembly Hall]

Vic Fangio out at Miami.

[Puffy]

Vic Fangio out at Miami.

And right to the Eagles. I wanted the Giants to get him 2 years ago instead of Martindale and now he is with Eagles. Crap on a crapstick.

[Tuff Nut]

The Faid will be first to be a thorn in KC's side. With Antonio, I feel the Raiders/Chiefs rivalry will be reborn. He did a hellofa job,imo, as the intern.

Meant to quote Sea Ray.

[The Operator]

Never thought I’d say this but I hope The Ravens win by 50 today.

[Todd Gack]

That should've been grounding.

Also, weekly reminder Lamar is not smart.

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Never thought I’d say this but I hope The Ravens win by 50 today.

Same

[Boston Red]

Why would it have been grounding? There was a receiver nearby.

[Todd Gack]

Why would it have been grounding? There was a receiver nearby.

He didn't get it back to the LOS and he was still in pocket. And it was no where near the receiver.

[Boston Red]

It was directly over his head.

[Todd Gack]

WOW. He might be stupid but he's a hell of an athlete.

[Boston Red]

That was pretty MVP-ish.

[The Operator]

State Farm, Subway, Experian have all ran ads with Mahomes and/or Kelce so far.


And the NFL wonders why people get suspicious.

[Todd Gack]

It was directly over his head.

Clearly uncatchable

[The Operator]

He didn't get it back to the LOS and he was still in pocket. And it was no where near the receiver.

State Farm ReplayTM reviewed the play and determined it was legal.

[Boston Red]

So what if it was uncatchable? If you throw the ball over a receiver's head, it's not grounding.

[Hillsdale87]

Amazing how the Chiefs offense sucked all year, and then they just decide to get good for the playoffs. Mahomes is amazing.


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[Boston Red]

This Mahomes guy doesn't suck.

[The Operator]

Ravens defense can’t stop anything so far.

[kaldaniels]

If I had any intelligence I would have put my life savings on the Chiefs making the Super Bowl once the Kelce-Swift PR blitz started up.

[Hillsdale87]

Chiefs should have challenged the spot on the previous play. I'm pretty sure Kelce got that


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[Boston Red]

I feel like Taylor Swift has made a lot of grown men lose their GD minds.

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Chiefs should have challenged the spot on the previous play. I'm pretty sure Kelce got that


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But the NFL is rigging this for the Chiefs. Haven't you heard?

[Boston Red]

Oh my God Lamar.

[RedTeamGo!]

That throw and catch by Lamar is something you see happen in a backyard football game. Lamar just did it in the AFC Championship game ha.

[The Operator]

Add T-Mobile to the list of Patrick Mahomes ads.

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That throw and catch by Lamar is something you see happen in a backyard football game. Lamar just did it in the AFC Championship game ha.

https://media.tenor.com/Znpg4w5rfEsAAAAM/nelson-touchdown.gif

[Hillsdale87]

Ref show on this drive. Weak personal foul, now 2 iffy at best holding calls


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[Boston Red]

Ravens awful in the first half. Only down 10. Who knows.

[The Operator]

Ravens work a 3 & out to start the 3rd quarter.

[The Operator]

Chiefs D respond with a 3 & out of their own.

[dabvu2498]

Lamar looks downright bad. Chiefs forcing him to throw into tight windows and not letting him get loose in the open field.

[Roy Tucker]

I don’t see a comeback in the Ravens.

[The Operator]

Ravens can’t sustain anything.

[Todd Gack]

Lamar looks downright bad. Chiefs forcing him to throw into tight windows and not letting him get loose in the open field.

I've been saying it for years: He's not intelligent and mentally weak on top of that. He can't rely on his pure athleticism to win all of these games. He needs more help than any other "Top" Qb in the league to win.

[Todd Gack]

So what if it was uncatchable? If you throw the ball over a receiver's head, it's not grounding.

Item 1. Passer or Ball Outside Tackle Position. Intentional grounding will not be called when a passer, who is outside, or has been outside, the tackle position,throws a forward pass that lands at or beyond the line of scrimmage, even if no offensive player(s) have a realistic chance to catch the ball (including when the ball lands out of bounds over the sideline or endline). If the ball crosses the line of scrimmage (extended) beyond the sideline, there is no intentional grounding. If a loose ball leaves the area bordered by the tackles, this area no longer exists; if the ball is recovered, all intentional grounding rules apply as if the passer is outside this area.

[Todd Gack]

Atta boy Lamar. You found a WIDE OPEN receiver.

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Get Flowers out of there. He's shook up right now.

[Boston Red]

Item 1. Passer or Ball Outside Tackle Position. Intentional grounding will not be called when a passer, who is outside, or has been outside, the tackle position,throws a forward pass that lands at or beyond the line of scrimmage, even if no offensive player(s) have a realistic chance to catch the ball (including when the ball lands out of bounds over the sideline or endline). If the ball crosses the line of scrimmage (extended) beyond the sideline, there is no intentional grounding. If a loose ball leaves the area bordered by the tackles, this area no longer exists; if the ball is recovered, all intentional grounding rules apply as if the passer is outside this area.

That is a rule all right. Not one that applies to that situation, but it is in fact a rule.

[Todd Gack]

That is a rule all right. Not one that applies to that situation, but it is in fact a rule.

Did it get to the LOS? Or anywhere near it?

[RedsBaron]

I don't have much of a rooting interest in the game but the Ravens sure appear to be undisciplined and an easy team to root against.

[KronoRed]

I don't have much of a rooting interest in the game but the Ravens sure appear to be undisciplined and an easy team to root against.

Always easy to root against a Harbaugh.

[Boston Red]

Did it get to the LOS? Or anywhere near it?

It doesn't have to if there is a receiver in the area.

[The Operator]

Jeez Flowers

[Todd Gack]

Atta boy Lamar. You found a WIDE OPEN receiver.

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Get Flowers out of there. He's shook up right now.

[Boston Red]

Not to be for the Ravens today.

[Todd Gack]

I don't have much of a rooting interest in the game but the Ravens sure appear to be undisciplined and an easy team to root against.

I started rooting for them but screw it. THey come up with the dumbest plays at the dumbest time at the biggest moments. Their entire team is losing their cool right now.

[LiferJim]

That just sealed it.


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[Reds Freak]

Ravens with the composure of the 2016 Bengals.

[The Operator]

Well, if there’s any upside to the State Farm SwiftBowl media hype that will come, at least we won’t have to hear all about the possibility of a multi-Harbaugh championship year for the next two weeks.

That’s something

[Todd Gack]

Flowers taunting penalty after 54 yard gain.
Flowers fumbles at goal line.
Flowers rips finger in frustration on bench.

[Boston Red]

Ravens are doing the dumbest stuff.

[Todd Gack]

Srsly.

Lamar.

STOP PROVING ME RIGHT

[The Operator]

What in the absolute hell was that 3rd and 1 play call.


Ravens are awful today.

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And then they convert on 4th down.


Thankfully.

[Todd Gack]

SIGH

[The Operator]

Jesus

[Todd Gack]

Lamar Jackson, Ladies and Gentlemen.

[Roy Tucker]

Wow. Baltimore has just not played smart today.

[LiferJim]

I said for a very long time Lamar is way overrated. Apparently he is


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[The Operator]

Sure seemed like there should have been a DPI flag on replay.

[Todd Gack]

Wow. Baltimore has just not played smart today.

Baltimore is 21 points below their scoring average.

They have currently allowed their defensive average.


There's only 1 person to blame for this.

[The Operator]

Defense and special teams are doing their best. Nice punt return.


If the Ravens do indeed lose it’s 100% on their offense.

[Boston Red]

Zay Flowers?

[dabvu2498]

NFL regular season was really good, but these playoffs have been hot garbage.

[Roy Tucker]

Ravens aren’t out of it.

[Todd Gack]

Lamar just isn't very good at this 2 minute offense thing. Wasting lots of valuable time for 3-4 yard gains.

[The Operator]

Well it’s a one score game

[dabvu2498]

Even Gene Steratore isn’t shilling for the refs on that PI call.

[LiferJim]

Chiefs are getting away with lots of penalties defensively. Last two drives


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